WahooSteeler Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 there are a couple of people on here who have seriously thought about building a dually, but nobody has actually done it yet. sometime earlier this year a member on here found a source for the rear fenders. IIRC they were not specific to an MJ but were for small to mid size trucks and could be trimmed up to fit. that first dually pic has been on here several times, and except for the bumper guards being painted white, is probably the coolest MJ in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Just another cool Jeep for the over sea's market we in the states never get to have . . . Dose anybody know anything about these trucks ? All i can find is yes they are real and there was a run of them built and shipped over sea's and that was it for info . . . What axles dose it have ? what sized wheel/tire dose it run ? truck looks like a true dually with the wheels its got . . . Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Just another cool Jeep for the over sea's market we in the states never get to have . . . Dose anybody know anything about these trucks ? All i can find is yes they are real and there was a run of them built and shipped over sea's and that was it for info . . . What axles dose it have ? what sized wheel/tire dose it run ? truck looks like a true dually with the wheels its got . . . Mike I don't think it was made strictly for over seas. I believe its a "kit" for mini trucks available in the early '90's. There is a dually track truck somewhere, and a camper floating around. All domestic. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 automan, wasn't there some confirmation that there were some factory built dually's? amc-mj, i believe it has been confirmed that the ones out there had dana44 rears. but, if they were available to anyone as a kit, one could just as easily have a d35 under there. i'm guessing those tires are probably 225/75/15s. my dream dually would have a d44 front, cut down dana60 out back, and a mbt4 diesel under the hood. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 If you thinking about the JCW kit but the JCW kit's allowed you to duel the factory single rims it did NOT come with DRW rim's . . . I saw listed on a web site some place . .. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 nope, not the JCW kit, a true kit w/dually rims etc. like you are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 there 225/75R16 tires's . . . D44's i'm guessing its a kit using the J-truck dually axle hub's as those where D44/D70 axle configuration so a 2WD = D44 rear a 4WD MJ-DRW = D44/D44 . . . So there was other kits then ? coolness learn something new, I read some place they made like 9 or 10 of these truck's and shipped them out over sea's . . . So i just figured it was an Export only deal like the 86-92 VM 2.8L diesel's . . . We prolly should keep get this back on track . . . Here lets chat about AMC's truck's: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24783 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWorks Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I've been doing some more research and such on this topic for my own situation. In Ontario we have a regulation that states that any truck and trailer combination over 4500 kg (9200 lb) must have an annual inspection and display a yellow sticker to be available for road side spot checks. I want to avoid this if possible. The government gets enough of my money and I don't need to get reamed for $300-$400 annual inspections either. I've done some trailer designing and have a spreadsheet that spits out the weight of the materials and parts for the trailer. Using my numbers: trailer: 1200 lb (including weight of ratchet straps, trailer spare tire, etc.) car: 2800 lb two sets of extra tires/wheels: 400 lb tools: 100 lbs Total trailer weight: 4500 Truck GVWR = 4700 (Is this correct?). The GVWR is what is used regardless of what the truck actually weighs. The flip pack camper weighs 300 lbs so plus me and my wife and any clothes, camping gear whatever we pack we will be well withing the GVWR. If the trailer ends up being heavier ultimately I'll take some of the payload weight off. I figure I'm within ~50lbs of what it'll weight though. Total combined: 9200 lbs Skin of the teeth kind of thing (see regulation at the top of this post). I could throw one or both set of tires/wheels and tools in the truck to make it work without issue. I don't have to have two sets of spare wheels either. The thought was rain and hard compound tires in conjunction with the super stickies. I think this is workable. After towing the big tent trailer with the XJ I'm certain the MJ can deal with this load provided the bed is not light. I don't have the owners manual for my truck and the door placard is all faded away. What is the gross vehicle weight rating for a 1988 SWB 4x4 Comanche? The number I used above is the curb weight plus the payload rating I found online. I've noticed other vehicles that I'm doing these calculations for have a the GVWR typically higher than those two numbers added together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 GVWR: 4551 according to the 88 dealership brochure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWorks Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 GVWR: 4551 according to the 88 dealership brochure. What does it say the payload is for the same truck? I thought it was 1478 lb? Edit: better yet, is this brochure online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 1475 for all non-metric ton MJs. hard copy. got it off ebay years ago. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 GVWR: 4551 according to the 88 dealership brochure. :eek: 4551 GVWR :eek: . . . Oop's :wall: I have been well above this many many times :shake: :ack: I have my MJ tagged for 6,000LBs, I have been grossing 6,300-7,100LB's on board it :doh: Good thing the bumper is rotten so i ain't tempted to tow with it, I figured it was a 6K-LB truck i was told its a Midsized Rig rather a 1/2ton truck stuffed in a 1/4ton truck sized package . . . Well given this new Info i am way more impressed with the workability of the MJ chassie, and way MORE impressed with the 2.5's ability to grunt a load . . . Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 curb weight is only 3k or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 :cheers: towing double its weight :cheers: Prolly why i'm starting to have braking issues now tho ;) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinkrun Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 I just had 32 bundles of shingles and a dresser and a desk on mine and it did fine also 2 big guys in the front. Have no idea of how much shingles weigh? Its is a metric ton though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btm24 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 :cheers: towing double its weight :cheers: Prolly why i'm starting to have braking issues now tho ;) Mike most likely :thumbsup: lol you should update the brake booster :D Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 I've had ~3000 pounds of dirt in the back of my not MT MJ when I first got it. Riding 3.4 miles on the bump stops and arrived at home with a broken leaf in each rear spring. I was used to my full size Ford I had before, as well as my Suburban which could carry 5000 pounds of drywall without breaking much of a sweat. Now when I get drywall I have some plywood inserts for the bed that are even with the top of the wheel wells, which limits me to 12 sheets at a time, which is only about 650 pounds in 1/2" 8 foot sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btm24 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 I've had ~3000 pounds of dirt in the back of my not MT MJ when I first got it. Riding 3.4 miles on the bump stops and arrived at home with a broken leaf in each rear spring. I was used to my full size Ford I had before, as well as my Suburban which could carry 5000 pounds of drywall without breaking much of a sweat. Now when I get drywall I have some plywood inserts for the bed that are even with the top of the wheel wells, which limits me to 12 sheets at a time, which is only about 650 pounds in 1/2" 8 foot sheets. really you broke a leaf? wow that sucks ive hulled like 2500-3000 lbs of oak wood from a huge tree be for and it was easy, my truck just looked like a low rider :ack: Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Mine looked like a lowrider as well. I was towing a 1200 pound trailer with another 2000 pounds of dirt on it. Had no problem getting going, but I ran a stop sign at the bottom of a hill with the brake pedal on the floor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btm24 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Mine looked like a lowrider as well. I was towing a 1200 pound trailer with another 2000 pounds of dirt on it. Had no problem getting going, but I ran a stop sign at the bottom of a hill with the brake pedal on the floor... :doh: well thats just not good. Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 I've had ~3000 pounds of dirt in the back of my not MT MJ when I first got it. Riding 3.4 miles on the bump stops and arrived at home with a broken leaf in each rear spring. I was used to my full size Ford I had before, as well as my Suburban which could carry 5000 pounds of drywall without breaking much of a sweat. Now when I get drywall I have some plywood inserts for the bed that are even with the top of the wheel wells, which limits me to 12 sheets at a time, which is only about 650 pounds in 1/2" 8 foot sheets. really you broke a leaf? wow that sucks ive hulled like 2500-3000 lbs of oak wood from a huge tree be for and it was easy, my truck just looked like a low rider :ack: Brandon broken leafs are typically due to rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 :eek: Really now :doh: . . .I guess i should quit loading it like a 3/4ton :hmm: . . . Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86ComancheXNate Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well I just loaded and hauled about 1160 lbs yesterday about 15 miles. I've got an 86 with the Metric Tonne package and 31" tires and AMC M20 with 4.11 It ran really smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Yup I got a Shortbed 2WD I'm swapping the Metric ton axle and springs/shocks under my truck but the lil'D35 n 2.5er will around 2,800lbs just fine. My truck is: AMC-150 I4 / AX-4 / D35-3.73s I'm swapping to: AMC-290 V8 / AX-15 / AMC-20-4.10s. Should tow 3K-lbs or less just fine ;-) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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