MancheKid86 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I'm looking at getting rid of my external slave cyl for my clutch, i want to swap over to the internal setup, i want to know if i have to switch clutches doing so? will i just be able to bolt it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 umm. WHY? the internal slave requires you to remove the transmission to replace the slave every time it goes bad. what engine/trans/transfercase options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yeah, WHY would you want to do this? Most people want to go the other way and get rid of the internal slave. I'm not 100% certain, but I think you'll have to replace your bellhousing. IIRC the internal slave is mounted to a pair of threaded bosses inside the bellhousing. I doubt the mounting points will be there in a bellhousing that was set up for the external slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mjmanche Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 just a word of advice INTERNAL SLAVES SUCKKKKKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Generally you have to change bellhousing when going from internal to external... I don't think you'll have to with this, but since you have to remove the transmission anyway, you might as well, so you can get rid of your external slave as a kit. The internal slave doesn't really mount to anything, but they usually have some sort of small rivet that goes into the bearing retainer... which is different between internal and external slave. But again, why, OH WHY, do you want to do this? External slaves are faaaar superior to internal setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I call first dibs on the bellhousing when you're selling it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I call first dibs on the bellhousing when you're selling it! Wouldn't do you any good. He's rockin a 2.5 I wish I was closer, I would trade you straight up for an internal setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Wouldn't do you any good. He's rockin a 2.5 Doh! :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I've had two hard-part failures on the internal slave, with brand new parts when I converted to 4.0L. The first was two days after the conversion as I was driving the MJ home from the garage I did the swap in......one of the stupid little U-clips that hold the hydraulic lines into it fell out and rendered me clutchless. Had to limp it back to the garage and drop the tranny to repair it (replaced the clips with cotter pins, FYI). And, just as recently as two weekends ago, I noticed something metallic sticking partially out of the bottom of the bellhousing (as the clutch had been becoming more and more chattery, and worse by the day). Pulled the inspection plate and what remained of the steel washer that secures the internal unit to the tiny little roll pin driven into the bearing retainer (reference Genovast's post above) fell out. I am officially done with the internal slave POS. I have a spare external AX15 I've been keeping in storage as a backup.....it's going in on Saturday morning. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-600JeepMJ Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 :dunno: I am about to try to swap my 90MJ from internal to external. you can have all the old parts when I am done. on my 86XJ has the external slave and it only took two bolts and a line to swap it out. About one hour of work in the drive way with out jacking up the jeep. :headpop: to change the internal slave is going to take at least a full week end to swap out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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