Budhound Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Jeep/XJ/P ... art=RE6165 It should work on my mj right? Its very basic my mj is stock. I don't even think the rear axel is flipped or maybe it is i can't remember ill look at it tomorrow. I'm looking for a small lift 2-3.5" what do you guys think. The truck will be used mostly on-road with occasional offroad duty. Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 the blocks won't work on a stock MJ. they will actually lower the rear since the springs are under the axle. you will need new leaf packs or get add a leafs and shackles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budhound Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 i don't know jack about supension when it comes to trucks :help: . The suspension is old and is probably all original with exception to the shocks and struts. I would like to get a nice kit something that I wouldnt have to mix match from other manufacturers. The truck is 2wd but 4wd is in the plans for the future so id like to knock out the suspension in one blow. Any suggestions? Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 rustys offroad and motion offroad both sell complete MJ lift kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budhound Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 ok so i relize very quickly why alot of people have mixed and matched suspensions instead of having one good kit . I was looking on both rustys and motion off road and came up with this: Rusty's Offroad MJ Comanche 3" Add-A-Leaf Kit http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.m ... sus_xj_kit Price: $265.00 KIT INCLUDES: • Front 3" coil springs • Rear 3" full length add-a-leaf • Front hydro performance shocks • Rear hydro performance shocks • Rear brake line extension kit • Grade 8 U-Bolts Motion Offroad MJ Comanche 3" Leaf Springs http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index. ... cts_id=107 $375.00 Id rather have a new leaf pack then use add-a-leaf. Now, the questions is do i need to modify my steering at all or worry about anything else with the 3" lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I would not go higher than 2" without longer lower control arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I can't beleive that you are telling someone on here to go to Rusty's! Have you not paid any attention at all??? :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLHTAZ Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I can't beleive that you are telling someone on here to go to Rusty's! Have you not paid any attention at all??? :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: EXACTLY... Stay away from Rusty's... If you wish to mix-n-match like that (which we have to do), get the RE 3.5" kit for an XJ and then get your 3" leaf springs for the rear. That is the set-up I have on mine :cheers: . You will have to measure and match shocks for the rear too because of it being an XJ kit, the rear shocks will not be the right length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSimon Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'll give my standard response for the classic "how should I lift my MJ?" 1. You can lift an MJ for anywhere from $100 to $2500. KNOW YOUR BUDGET UP FRONT!!!! The worst thing is to be half way in and run out of money. 2. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!! There is a lot more to lifting an MJ than you think. Make a list of all the options, price them out, weigh the pros and cons ..... think some more .... read some more .... ask more questions ..... think some more ..... THEN buy. 3. Do NOT fall into the trap of thinking, "Oh, I'll just lift it a few inches now and can always go higher later if I want to." Trust me, from personal experience, just do it right the first time. So with those rules out of the way, IMO, you get the best "value" by doing a spring over in the rear and then buying separate components for the front. You can search up all the info you could ever want on the SOA and all the front stuff. Also, you can make a list of everything you need then watch the clasifieds for a few weeks. You can most likely put together a very capable lift for a lot less than the kits out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLHTAZ Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The problem with doing the spring over is that it forces you to lift the front 5-6", which is going to get expensive to do properly - even if you "piece it together". I personally don't believe in piecing things together. You are better off to buy a kit and have it right to start with IMHO :cheers: I have never been one to spend a bunch of time searching, asking questions, blah, blah, blah... I decide on what I want, go buy the kit and do it :thumbsup: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 yes i know about rustys, dealt with him first hand. i was just saying that he has complete mj lifts so he knows what to get if piecing one together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Didn't seem very complete to me (no lower control arms). :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 you need lower control arms with anything 2-3" or higher :chillin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSimon Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I have never been one to spend a bunch of time searching, asking questions, blah, blah, blah... I decide on what I want, go buy the kit and do it :thumbsup: . Hey man, if thats how you roll .... go for it. Nothing wrong with it. And thats pretty much exactly what I did when I bought my 3" Motion Offroad kit. However, now I realize that if I had done a little more homework I could have spent less money, had more and better components, be running 33s instead of 31s, and have a much more capable truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The problem with doing the spring over is that it forces you to lift the front 5-6", which is going to get expensive to do properly - even if you "piece it together". I personally don't believe in piecing things together. You are better off to buy a kit and have it right to start with IMHO :cheers: I have never been one to spend a bunch of time searching, asking questions, blah, blah, blah... I decide on what I want, go buy the kit and do it :thumbsup: . XJ shackles make it 4-5 :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The problem with doing the spring over is that it forces you to lift the front 5-6", which is going to get expensive to do properly - even if you "piece it together". I can vouch for that statement, 'cause that's what I did. I was able to work out some parts trades for some of what I used, but if I had to buy everything seperately, especially new, I probably wouldn't have had the funds necessary. Just a few things to think about: longer LCAs (mine are fixed, but adj ones would be better, I got lucky on the length...used) adjustable UCAs (bought those new, $225) adjustable trackbar/mount/brace (used) new springs/spacers (used) shocks (and a set of BPE's I bought used and cleaned up) new brakelines ($55) longer swaybar links (I'm running a set of used JKS disconnects bought used) new UJ's and a new (used) front driveshaft That's the short list..... :ack: Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 i don't know jack about supension when it comes to trucks :help: . The suspension is old and is probably all original with exception to the shocks and struts. I would like to get a nice kit something that I wouldnt have to mix match from other manufacturers. The truck is 2wd but 4wd is in the plans for the future so id like to knock out the suspension in one blow. Any suggestions? Buddy Just a FYI, your truck doesn't have struts. It's not IFS/IRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budhound Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 I can't beleive that you are telling someone on here to go to Rusty's! Have you not paid any attention at all??? :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: EXACTLY... Stay away from Rusty's... If you wish to mix-n-match like that (which we have to do), get the RE 3.5" kit for an XJ and then get your 3" leaf springs for the rear. That is the set-up I have on mine :cheers: . You will have to measure and match shocks for the rear too because of it being an XJ kit, the rear shocks will not be the right length. Fill me in what the heck is wrong with rustys? I'm looking to go cheap i mean cmon i bought the truck for 500 bucks. and aside from regular maintnence and some xj buckets ive picked up i havent done anything. I'm not looking to go rock crawling jsut maybe some trail riding or something of that sort. THis info you guys are giving me is usefull so keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Rustys has a history of poor design, broken parts, and bad customer service. Don't think that the higher end suspensions are only for rockcrawling. The better setups are better in all situations, including on the road. Your money goes towards a better quality part (and getting all the right parts) and not just better performance on the trail. It's probably not wise to compare the price to what you paid for the truck. It's a cost/benefit analysis all unto itself. My last MJ cost me $75. :yes: Just wait til you look into upgrading the gear ratios to accommodate the bigger tires. :D Wheeling can be expensive no matter what you start with. If you want cheaper, try to get some parts used. Just make sure you get all of the parts needed to do it right. We're just here to try and steer you from the regrets and wasted money many of us have experienced. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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