jeepaholic Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 Ok...I finally got me a MJ to build. I will post a pic of it tommorow. The guy says its an 88 but i say its an 87. If anybody can help me out here is the vin....1JTML651XHT049647....also i saw a thread a few weeks ago but can't find it...what causes excessive oil in the air cleaner..the pcv? Gonna be needing some body and interior parts too.
ROADLESS Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 You are right, it is an 87 as designated by the 'H' in the VIN# :yes:
whowey Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 ....1JTML651XHT049647.... Okay, here is the vin run down. 1- US built J - Jeep T -truck M - 4.0l L - 5-spd manual tranny, part time t-case 65 - LWB 4-whl drive 1 - Not sure, FSM shows only letters (for the trim package) X - Check digit H - Model year 1987 T - Built in Toledo 049647 - serial number Edit- Got to thinking about that '1'. On a hunch I checked the vin on my 88 MJ. I have the same '1'. Mine is a custom ordered Metric Tonne, any chance you know whether yours was a custom order also???
jeepaholic Posted July 10, 2006 Author Posted July 10, 2006 ....1JTML651XHT049647.... Okay, here is the vin run down. 1- US built J - Jeep T -truck M - 4.0l L - 5-spd manual tranny, part time t-case 65 - LWB 4-whl drive 1 - Not sure, FSM shows only letters (for the trim package) X - Check digit H - Model year 1987 T - Built in Toledo 049647 - serial number Edit- Got to thinking about that '1'. On a hunch I checked the vin on my 88 MJ. I have the same '1'. Mine is a custom ordered Metric Tonne, any chance you know whether yours was a custom order also??? By the looks of it i would say no to the custom order..pretty much a base truck...manual windows...idiot lights/not guages..so on..
mjeff87 Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 My 87 has a 1 in that position also.....and believe me, it ain't no special order unit :roll: (I've only ever seen one MJ that was less optioned than mine, in a junkyard once. It was so stripped it didn't even have a cigarette lighter, just a blank panel there!) Jeff
whowey Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 Maybe 1 there means base model. The FSM doesn't list base model either. Mine is a 'base model' but it had certain things ordered on.
Oizarod115 Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 excessive oil in the filter could be blowby... my brother disconnected that hose and put it in a empty quart of oil empties it every once ina while. my guess would be you've got high mileage? -nick
fiatslug87 Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 It's an '87. Run it through this Jeep VIN decoder http://jeep.avtograd.ru/VIN/vin_en.asp
jeepaholic Posted July 11, 2006 Author Posted July 11, 2006 I gotta work on getting a title for it. The guy i got it from never had the title transfered and has since lost it..and i can't locate the guy he bought it from.... :headpop:
87manche Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 not sure about the 1, my vin is similar being a 4.0 LWB 4x4, my option code is P, and it's a pioneer. edit. The jeep VIN decoder says that's a control digit. Here's my VIn Control (check) digit calculation Symbol 1 J T M L 6 5 P 1 H T 0 2 8 9 4 8 Numeric value: 1 1 T 4 3 6 5 7 * 8 3 0 2 8 9 4 8 Weight factor: 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 10 * 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 Products: 8 7 18 20 12 18 10 70 * 72 24 0 12 40 36 12 16 The sum of all 16 products : 375 375 divided by 11 gives a remainder 1 Another words, 375 =( 34 x 11) + 1 Thus, on 9-th position of a VIN-code there should be a symbol 1
fiatslug87 Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 ....1JTML651XHT049647.... Okay, here is the vin run down. 1- US built J - Jeep T -truck M - 4.0l L - 5-spd manual tranny, part time t-case 65 - LWB 4-whl drive 1 - Not sure, FSM shows only letters (for the trim package) X - Check digit H - Model year 1987 T - Built in Toledo 049647 - serial number Edit- Got to thinking about that '1'. On a hunch I checked the vin on my 88 MJ. I have the same '1'. Mine is a custom ordered Metric Tonne, any chance you know whether yours was a custom order also??? The "1" in the 8th position designates base model.
jeepaholic Posted July 12, 2006 Author Posted July 12, 2006 Mine is for sure base..I did notice last night it has air conditioning though. Didnt even hardly look at the inside when i bought it. :drool:
whowey Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 not sure about the 1, my vin is similar being a 4.0 LWB 4x4, my option code is P, and it's a pioneer. edit. The jeep VIN decoder says that's a control digit. Here's my VIn Control (check) digit calculation Symbol 1 J T M L 6 5 P 1 H T 0 2 8 9 4 8 Comanche Pioneer std. rear 4001 -5000lbs GVWR range. Or 87 LWB Pioneer, 4x4, 4.0l, 5-spd, part-time t-case, with a std. rear end. Pretty close?
whowey Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 ....1JTML651XHT049647.... Okay, here is the vin run down. 1- US built J - Jeep T -truck M - 4.0l L - 5-spd manual tranny, part time t-case 65 - LWB 4-whl drive 1 - Not sure, FSM shows only letters (for the trim package) X - Check digit H - Model year 1987 T - Built in Toledo 049647 - serial number Edit- Got to thinking about that '1'. On a hunch I checked the vin on my 88 MJ. I have the same '1'. Mine is a custom ordered Metric Tonne, any chance you know whether yours was a custom order also??? The "1" in the 8th position designates base model. Maybe 1 there means base model. The FSM doesn't list base model either. Mine is a 'base model' but it had certain things ordered on Already came upon that conclusion. But a base Metric Tonne got an 'F' in position 8, which is what is confusing. Mine is base trim, but has the Metric Tonne package on it. I've got all the external markers, the different springs, and the D44 but its got a 1 in the eighth position.
fiatslug87 Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 ....1JTML651XHT049647.... The "1" in the 8th position designates base model. Maybe 1 there means base model. The FSM doesn't list base model either. Mine is a 'base model' but it had certain things ordered on Already came upon that conclusion. But a base Metric Tonne got an 'F' in position 8, which is what is confusing. Mine is base trim, but has the Metric Tonne package on it. I've got all the external markers, the different springs, and the D44 but its got a 1 in the eighth position. Easy there whowey, I was just confirming the "maybe" and you’re correct about the Metric Ton Here's the list I have for position 8, the list is labeled as being for 1987-1990, but now I doubt its accuracy since when I just looked at my 1990 FSM, the 8th digit is the Engine. F 5,001 - 6,000 lbs. Comanche, base & Custom, Metric Ton, Big Ton J 3,001 - 4,000 lbs. Wrangler base & Cherokee base K 3,001 - 4,000 lbs. Wrangler Sport & Cherokee Pioneer L 3,001 - 4,000 lbs. Wrangler Laredo & Cherokee Laredo M 3,001 - 4,000 lbs. Wrangler Sahara N 5,001 - 6,000 lbs. Grand Wagoneer & J-10 Truck P 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Comanche Pioneer P 6,001 - 7000 lbs. J-20 Truck R 5,001 - 6,000 lbs. Comanche Pioneer, Metric Ton, Big Ton S 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Comanche Chief S 7,001 - 8,000 lbs. J-20 Truck T 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Comanche Laredo U 5,001 - 6,000 lbs. Comanche Laredo, Metric Ton, Big Ton U 6,001 - 7000 lbs. Grand Wagoneer & J-10 Truck Y 8,001 - 9,000 lbs. J-20 Truck 1 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Wrangler base, Cherokee base, Comanche base 2 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Wrangler Sahara & Cherokee Pioneer 3 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Wrangler Sport & Cherokee Chief 4 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Wrangler Laredo, Cherokee Laredo, Wagoneer Limited 5 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Cherokee E.C.E. & Comanche Eliminator 9 4,001 - 5,000 lbs. Cherokee Limited
mjeff87 Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Just found this buried inside a zip file of the 88 FSM. This is what is says regarding the 8th digit on the VIN: 8 - Trim Package 1 * Custom 2 * Pioneer 3 * Chief 4 * Laredo 5 * Base 5 * Wagoneer 6 * Limited K * Cherokee Base (2WD) L * Pioneer (2WD) M * Laredo (2WD)
4play Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Just found this buried inside a zip file of the 88 FSM. This is what is says regarding the 8th digit on the VIN: 8 - Trim Package 1 * Custom 2 * Pioneer 3 * Chief 4 * Laredo 5 * Base 5 * Wagoneer 6 * Limited K * Cherokee Base (2WD) L * Pioneer (2WD) M * Laredo (2WD) So, what is "T" in the 8th slot? The VIN decoder seems to skip that value.
whowey Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Just found this buried inside a zip file of the 88 FSM. This is what is says regarding the 8th digit on the VIN: 8 - Trim Package 1 * Custom 2 * Pioneer 3 * Chief 4 * Laredo 5 * Base 5 * Wagoneer 6 * Limited K * Cherokee Base (2WD) L * Pioneer (2WD) M * Laredo (2WD) So, what is "T" in the 8th slot? The VIN decoder seems to skip that value. Laredo model with a GVWR of 4001-5000 lbs.
Guest Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 If it helps i can tell you that my 88 is a special order from the argentine goverment to jeep. The order was for about 200 units. I have a number 1 as 8th digit and the chrysler system in a dealer said it means COMANCHE BASE. Regards. Fernando
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