streetjeep2.5

here ya go! The orange and white pieces are my gerryriging! Image Not Found Image Not Found It is on the Throttle Body where the throttle cable hooks up, and works like the idle adjustment screw did for a carb, but instead the gears inside the ICM let it down to idle slower than instant.

this is 4.0, me thinks. Me be 2.5. It's origin is lost in the past and is now part of antiquity. :roll:

On the grey comanche drag racing; I always liked the one with it that shows it from in the cab! You see him catch and pass an early muscle car!

Yep. Got Idle Air Control Valve for a 4.0, but not the Idle Control Motor for a 2.5. Probably just gut the puppy and let it work like the old carbs did.

Mine is kind of "gerry rigged". Can't find anything on the internet as a replacement. What have you guys done in the way of fixing or eliminating?

Hey, thanks for this! The St L MO one is not that far away!

Think I'll mount a campaign to get M :yes: :smart: :clapping: :rotfl2: :hmm: :thumbsup: issouri to be like Kansas

In my attempt to get to the real laws for Missouri, called the State Motor Vehicle Dept and they sent me to the State Police Inspection Department. Inspection dept said ever since 1992 and based upon 1990 Federal Law, Missouri Law is the engine in a vehicle can only be what was offered for it from the factory. In the case of my 87 comanche, it can legally only have a 2.5 or 4.0. In the case of a 1986 Comanche, it can legally only have a 2.5 or 2.8 (if diesel was offered, can have that). You can replace the Injection with a carb and get rid of the computer if you want. IF for any reason it ends up getting inspected by the state police, it will not pass inspection if there is anything else in it, and it cannot be licensed. The guy I talked to likes the law as little as I do, but it's da Law, man!!! Called Kansas. They don't care. I can have what I want in it. Since we were planning, it appears, on retiring toward the KC area, guess it will be in the Kansas side!!!!!!

He wants almost 2 times as much as the worlds fastest comanche sold for at auction! :nuts:

If it was in showroom condition, completely original, had under 50 grand in miles, and never been in an accident, maybe $10,000???? But this thing is a repaint and has 154,000 on it. Carfax says in 2004; "Accident reported Involving front impact with another motor vehicle. Moderate damage reported". Bet that was the repaint, which could indicate "moderate" sheet metal work (BONDO!!!!). Plus, "01/07/1997, 950 miles" according to "Tennessee Inspection Station", and in "06/30/1999, 96,707 miles" according to "Southeast Automotive, Nashville, TN", where "Vehicle offered for sale"? Almost 96,000 miles in 2 1/2 years????? Bet that thing sits there for a lot longer than it has now been sitting (since July 2010 so far).

no varification of engine block, etc. just look at the vin and compare to title/registration, and make sure everything works. That's why I don't consider it a big deal. Even the inspectors don't care what engine is in it. They are hotrodders themselves!

"We" aren't. Those who want to control the people, the socialist's/Marxist's, are. As I heard on a talk show this morning, and I paraphrase; the people bringing about this agenda are very smart, doing this incrementally. It is most of the American voters who aren't seeing it and doing something about it before it's too late. IMO, I hope enough people are fired up enough to not just get the House Majority and others to halt any more socialism, but to reverse what's already been done. If they won't, then vote them out and get those who will.

Ok, this morning I think I found the "loophole"! :cheers: Since the law DOESN'T say: "301.370. 1. Nothing in sections 301.010 to 301.440 shall be construed to prohibit the owner of a duly registered motor vehicle from removing the motor or engine from such vehicle and replacing it with *THE ONLY MOTOR OR ENGINE PERMITTED BY LAW TO REPLACE IT*, a new or reconditioned motor or engine of the same make or manufacture," and since the next part says "The owner and the person removing and replacing such motor or engine shall ...", I DON'T HAVE TO! :clapping: If they said anything, I could just point to this "law" and say "It did not say I have to replace it with one of the same make and manufacture. but that I am not prohibited from doing so." KEWL Better get with it before they catch this!!!!!

I was told on the phone it is the result of federal law changes last year, and three or four times was told the junk yard is to furnish a "motor title", that being the law now. I took "If the motor to be installed is a reconditioned motor, it shall bear the same number as the motor removed but shall be preceded by the symbol RC'.", that it could have to bear the same not serial number but block part number, indicating it is the same thing, or something to identify it as "identical." Gonna find out some more. No matter what, the federal govmt and the idiotic EPA is so screwing things up for states and then us!

Talked to a shop today and they say they got to do it, don't like it, but got to do it. Now, you and me under the shade tree???? Completely different.

Guys. Long 'legal stuff' post. Considering a carbed 327 (hey, streetjeep327, might as well) eventually in my manche. While I know around my area no one who inspects my vehicle will give a rip whats under the hood, if we let the govmt intrude into the vehicle area any more, it could become a problem. Below is the new (the way I understand it kind of the result of "cash for clunkers") law in Missouri. Being federally affected, bet other states are similar. Soooo ... what's your take on things? I take it IF I was to go by the letter of the law, I cannot put anything but a 2.5 in my manche. Can't even do a 4.0 because the numbers would not match what came out. Your read also? IMO we are so wrapped in in Obama Care and such things we are ignoring the small things that make life a hassle. Missouri Revised Statutes Chapter 301 Registration and Licensing of Motor Vehicles Section 301.370 August 28, 2010 Replacement of motor--procedure. 301.370. 1. Nothing in sections 301.010 to 301.440 shall be construed to prohibit the owner of a duly registered motor vehicle from removing the motor or engine from such vehicle and replacing it with a new or reconditioned motor or engine of the same make or manufacture. 2. The owner and the person removing and replacing such motor or engine shall join in an affidavit showing the number of the motor or engine removed, the date of removal, the reason for removal, and a description of the motor or engine replaced in the vehicle. 3. If the motor to be installed is a reconditioned motor, it shall bear the same number as the motor removed but shall be preceded by the symbol "RC". If the motor installed is a new motor, it shall bear a special number to be secured as provided in section 301.380. 4. The affidavit, together with the original certificate of title, shall be sent to the director of revenue at Jefferson City, Missouri, with a fee of one dollar for registering such change of motor or engine. The director of revenue shall file the affidavit and certificate in his office and shall issue and deliver a new certificate of title to the owner. 5. The owner of a motor vehicle that is identified on the appropriate Missouri certificate of ownership by a manufacturer's number other than the engine or motor number shall be exempt from the provisions of subsections 2, 3 and 4. 6. The director of revenue may adopt and enforce the rules and regulations, compatible with this chapter, that he deems necessary to properly administer this section. Missouri Revised Statutes Chapter 301 Registration and Licensing of Motor Vehicles Section 301.380 August 28, 2010 Special numbers issued, when--fee--effect--trailers, special numbers issued, when--examination required--fee. 301.380. 1. Whenever the original, manufacturer's, or other distinguishing number on any motor vehicle, trailer or motor vehicle tire has been destroyed, removed, covered, altered, defaced or is otherwise nonexistent, the director of revenue, upon application, payment of a fee of seven dollars and fifty cents, and satisfactory proof of ownership by the owner, shall issue a certificate authorizing the owner to place a special number designated by the director of revenue upon the vehicle, trailer or tire. 2. In order to properly calculate the sales tax due, in the case of a trailer which is alleged to have been made by someone who is not a manufacturer using readily distinguishable manufacturers' identifying numbers or a certificate of origin, the person seeking the special number authorized by the provisions of this section shall secure a written statement from a motor vehicle inspection station that the trailer has been examined and that it is not one made by a regular manufacturer. The superintendent of the state highway patrol shall provide such forms for inspection stations, and the person, firm, or corporation seeking the examination shall pay a regular inspection fee for the examination. The proceeds of the fee shall be distributed in the same manner as regular inspection fees are distributed. This subsection shall not apply to trailers inspected under section 301.191. 3. The director of revenue shall designate the special numbers consecutively beginning with the number one preceded by the letters "DR" and followed by the letters "Mo" for each make of motor vehicle, trailer or motor vehicle tire, or if the make be unknown, the number shall also be preceded by the letter "X". 4. When such number has been placed upon the motor vehicle or motor or engine thereof, or trailer or motor vehicle tire, it shall be the lawful number of the same for the purpose of identification, registration, and all other purposes of this chapter, and the owner may sell and transfer such property under the special number. No person shall destroy, remove, cover, alter or deface any such special number.

A Volunteer. I am a pastor and do monthly services at the Vets home. I have to be at the dinner before noon and know it will last till after one. Did you have a tube? Whatcha want for it?

Didn't get your email until Saturday Morning. While Mexico is easy for me to go to, not going to be there this AM. Sorry!!! I will be there Wednesday Noon for the Mexico Veterans Home annual volunteers appreciation lunch at the Elks Lodge, or let me know the next time you will be there and I will see if my schedule will allow being there. Thanks!

Think my 2.5 finally got too tired and with it getting hard to find things or it, thinking on it becoming a non-renix 4.0, or forget all this computerized attempt to control things and build me a performance carbed engine. Then I have a basic auto again. My 2.5 leaned out which means #3 cyl needs sleeved, and #2 has damage, and my head had really low vacuum which means lots of work. So, why a grand in a 2.5 when I can spend 2 grand and get something still supported by parts stores and junk yards.

Its a copy of mine (if short box, looks like it), drive train, and all! If it has maroon interior and bench seat, really a copy! Rebuilt my 2.5 at 247,000. Now truck had 345,000 on it. Tranny and rear diff still doing fine. Mine, too, is still white underneath, except for the various places where some undercoating was sprayed. My interior was wet when I got it, so gutted it and dried everything out. Coated the floorboards with the "black" stuff. Mine cost more, though, bought it 7 years ago.

Montgomery City, Exit 175 off of I-70. Arnold is south of SL? But the only Perry I know of is north of me near Mark Twain lake? Is there another Perry south of SL?

Only see 3 of us.

Ok, lets break the record!

Ok, its 8:07 Central. I'm on. I'll stay on but open up some other windows and do other stuff. That Count????

Need to fix my 2.5 EGR to exhaust manifold tube. My WTB in Classifieds netted nothing. Have a Clifford header on it, and it does not let my stock one fit. Any flexible tubing that can be used with keeping the two ends?