Warren99 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 87 automatic cruise control column, swapped onto a 89 manual MJ. Key clicks into what I think is accessory, then run, then start. But when rolled all the way back the key won’t come out. I’m guessing this has to do with the neutral safety switch kinda deal from the auto. What do I have to do? Pic shows key as far backwards(counter clockwise) as it lets me turn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 Nevermind! Found it, I’ll post a pic incase anyone else has this problem and finds this. this ball joint thing is how the column knows if an auto trans is in park. It needs to be pulled towards the driver to allow the key to be removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Never mind, you got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warren99 said: Nevermind! Found it, I’ll post a pic incase anyone else has this problem and finds this. this ball joint thing is how the column knows if an auto trans is in park. It needs to be pulled towards the driver to allow the key to be removed it needs to be pulled back towards the firewall, i have a write up on how to install the auto column into a manual that eliminates it. you can always just tie it back so that you can turn the ignition to the off position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, jdog said: it needs to be pulled back towards the firewall, i have a write up on how to install the auto column into a manual that eliminates it. you can always just tie it back so that you can turn the ignition to the off position. For me when it’s pulled toward the firewall, I can’t turn the key all the way off. What’s the name of your write up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Warren99 said: For me when it’s pulled toward the firewall, I can’t turn the key all the way off. What’s the name of your write up? I forget which way, it's been a while since i've had to mess with it. lots of pictures and you have to get to the very bottom of the column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 Thanks, that will make it a lot easier. But right now the rod is pulled towards the driver, and the key can freely cycle to everywhere it needs to be and it doesn’t kick the rod forward. Is there anything wrong with me just leaving it like that? What would make me have to take it apart and remove it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 Never mind, it slowly pushes away until it locks. Can I use a zip tie or something to hole it in place? I don’t see any issue with that as long as it doesn’t come loose or slip off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 as long as it doesn't slip off and you can figure out a way to keep it engage, there should be no problem, just remember this gets buried under the dash and any issues you will have to go digging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 you can also rig up the cable that goes to it and route it somewhere where you can access and jam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 I'm 90% sure that I didn't keep the cable that goes to it, but I can look to my parts and if I find it I'll use it. But for now, I'll try to come up with another temporary solution before I tear apart the whole column. And worst case, if my next solution fails when I'm out parking somewhere, I can just disconnect a few things under the hood to make it not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 Behold the not so temporary temporary solution! I drilled a hole in the column plastic, then got my dad to safety wire it. If anyone knows how to use safety wire, it’s an aircraft technician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 If it fails in the future, I'll give an update here. If it continues to work forever then it might not be a bad idea for other people who don't want to take apart the column and do it the better way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drahcir495 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 19 hours ago, fiatslug87 said: Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution. Love that! My key will not come out of the column in the XJ, so I am always worried that someone will just be able to open the door and just casually drive away. I will have to check this out. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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