how did you mount XJ, WJ, or ZJ seats in your MJ?

[motownXJdad]

simple question for those that have done it. my MJ already has factory buckets.  pics are appreciated. pic of my 98 ZJ seats i want to use

[motownXJdad]

my stockers

[krustyballer16]

I know someone in here has used my brackets to mount these seats!

[pago cruiser]

I have uploaded a few pdfs from other sites with seat swaps to the MJ cloud server.  Some good details in there.

[MobilJoe1]

If your good with your hands, welder/ grinder and modified seat brackets then your good to go. Mine is from 99 seats ford explorer. The cushion on them are fantastic. I kept the seat brackets from the explorer and did a little bit or more and done. Cheers!

[pizzaman09]

On 9/15/2022 at 4:37 PM, motownXJdad said:

my stockers

Your stock seat covers look to be in much better shape than mine, same color and seat.  Any chance you'd consider selling them when you are done replacing the seats?

[motownXJdad]

3 hours ago, pizzaman09 said:

Your stock seat covers look to be in much better shape than mine, same color and seat.  Any chance you'd consider selling them when you are done replacing the seats?

yes id sell them.  ill be selling the door cards too, theyre mint. I'm probably gonna use square tube to mount my ZJ seats so i can still wire them for power and heat, so I'm not using the comanche seats at all

[motownXJdad]

3 hours ago, pizzaman09 said:

Your stock seat covers look to be in much better shape than mine, same color and seat.  Any chance you'd consider selling them when you are done replacing the seats?

i recently saw a how to vid for cleaning upholstry, and the guy soaked his seats with purple power for like 30 mins and then powerwashed them, they came out really nice and they were filthy. 

[pizzaman09]

8 hours ago, motownXJdad said:

yes id sell them.  ill be selling the door cards too, theyre mint. I'm probably gonna use square tube to mount my ZJ seats so i can still wire them for power and heat, so I'm not using the comanche seats at all

 

8 hours ago, motownXJdad said:

i recently saw a how to vid for cleaning upholstry, and the guy soaked his seats with purple power for like 30 mins and then powerwashed them, they came out really nice and they were filthy. 

Cool, no rush, but keep me in mind when you get them out.  I've had great luck using the turtle wax carpet cleaner, it's basically a dry cleaning product.

[motownXJdad]

2 hours ago, pizzaman09 said:

 

Cool, no rush, but keep me in mind when you get them out.  I've had great luck using the turtle wax carpet cleaner, it's basically a dry cleaning product.

i certainly will

[Minuit]

I'm not done yet, but I'll be replicating the ZJ's mounts in my 89 MJ like so:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fitment right out of the box is not perfect, but it's amazingly close considering how different the ZJ and MJ floor areas are.

 

Key Parts makes both the late XJ seat mounts, and the floor pan. The seats are 98 ZJ seats with 97+ 2-door XJ seat pedestals and tilt mechanisms. The Chrysler seats of this time period are almost totally modular, so you can freely mix and match seat parts within that year range. Late XJ, ZJ, and WJ seat parts at a minimum should be fair game. Likely TJ seats as well. So when I get bored of the cloth seats I can swap in some heated leather WJ seats in like an hour, tops with no modifications to anything. I'm considering running the wiring for power and heated seats even though I'll be starting out without those features.

 

I'll be aligning the back of the seat mount with the center of the flat surface located roughly at the beginning of the B-pillar, and locating the front mount to match. I'll be replicating the way the ZJ mounts the seats, with captive nuts on the bottom side of the floor. The MJ's floor pan is not reinforced for this, so I'll be plating that area of the floor on the bottom. I will need to add new captive nuts on the seat mounts to line up with the bolt holes on the seat pedestals.

 

Just based on a dry mock-up without bolting anything down, it seems like I'll be gaining a small amount of leg room, moving the seating position up roughly 1.5", and retaining clearance for the plastic trim around the seat. There will also be no meaningful loss to space behind the seat. I'm an "almost six footer" with a long torso and headroom is still comfortable - or it would be if the headliner wasn't drooping, anyway. The seating position is going to be flatter than the MJ factory buckets - if you look sideways on at the MJ factory seats, they're pointed way up at the dash. The rise of the XJ seat mount makes up for the incline of the MJ floor pan. Steering column clearance might be tight for a straight column, but I don't care since I'm putting in a tilt column anyway. You're also gaining room under the seat to hide audio gear, so this 89 is definitely going to rock a little harder than my 91.

 

If properly installed (read:properly welded, and the MJ floor pan is sufficiently reinforced on the other side - you can't just bolt seats to a single layer of sheet metal), this should add some side-impact protection to the cab as well. The factory floor braces are obviously not going to work with this unless modified. I'll be throwing out the sideways floor brace completely (since this does the same thing better while also being a dual-purpose part), and modifying the longitudinal one to fit around the seat mount.

 

Let me know if this doesn't answer all of your questions.

[boxyjeep]

2016+ Jeep Cherokee KL leather/heated power seats.  Chopped up some Krusty’s brackets and built the rest.  Not fun.  The floor pans are way too tight.

 

I have a write-up on the how-to sub forum.

 

[motownXJdad]

14 hours ago, Minuit said:

I'm not done yet, but I'll be replicating the ZJ's mounts in my 89 MJ like so:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fitment right out of the box is not perfect, but it's amazingly close considering how different the ZJ and MJ floor areas are.

 

Key Parts makes both the late XJ seat mounts, and the floor pan. The seats are 98 ZJ seats with 97+ 2-door XJ seat pedestals and tilt mechanisms. The Chrysler seats of this time period are almost totally modular, so you can freely mix and match seat parts within that year range. Late XJ, ZJ, and WJ seat parts at a minimum should be fair game. Likely TJ seats as well. So when I get bored of the cloth seats I can swap in some heated leather WJ seats in like an hour, tops with no modifications to anything. I'm considering running the wiring for power and heated seats even though I'll be starting out without those features.

 

I'll be aligning the back of the seat mount with the center of the flat surface located roughly at the beginning of the B-pillar, and locating the front mount to match. I'll be replicating the way the ZJ mounts the seats, with captive nuts on the bottom side of the floor. The MJ's floor pan is not reinforced for this, so I'll be plating that area of the floor on the bottom. I will need to add new captive nuts on the seat mounts to line up with the bolt holes on the seat pedestals.

 

Just based on a dry mock-up without bolting anything down, it seems like I'll be gaining a small amount of leg room, moving the seating position up roughly 1.5", and retaining clearance for the plastic trim around the seat. There will also be no meaningful loss to space behind the seat. I'm an "almost six footer" with a long torso and headroom is still comfortable - or it would be if the headliner wasn't drooping, anyway. The seating position is going to be flatter than the MJ factory buckets - if you look sideways on at the MJ factory seats, they're pointed way up at the dash. The rise of the XJ seat mount makes up for the incline of the MJ floor pan. Steering column clearance might be tight for a straight column, but I don't care since I'm putting in a tilt column anyway. You're also gaining room under the seat to hide audio gear, so this 89 is definitely going to rock a little harder than my 91.

 

If properly installed (read:properly welded, and the MJ floor pan is sufficiently reinforced on the other side - you can't just bolt seats to a single layer of sheet metal), this should add some side-impact protection to the cab as well. The factory floor braces are obviously not going to work with this unless modified. I'll be throwing out the sideways floor brace completely (since this does the same thing better while also being a dual-purpose part), and modifying the longitudinal one to fit around the seat mount.

 

Let me know if this doesn't answer all of your questions.

Great info, thank you. i figured from a few videos ive seen that the seat swap wouldnt be too difficult. i also planned on re-enforcing the rear seat mounts also, a previous owner installed new floors in mine which is why plan on using square tube, or the XJ pieces for the front seat mounts. do you have a build thread on the truck you pictured that i can follow? i also have a set of cloth seats like yours in the darker grey👍

[motownXJdad]

6 hours ago, SoCalJeepComanche said:

2016+ Jeep Cherokee KL leather/heated power seats.  Chopped up some Krusty’s brackets and built the rest.  Not fun.  The floor pans are way too tight.

 

I have a write-up on the how-to sub forum.

 

i have already browsed though your thread😁, those seats look great. nice work👍

[Minuit]

19 minutes ago, motownXJdad said:

Great info, thank you. i figured from a few videos ive seen that the seat swap wouldnt be too difficult. i also planned on re-enforcing the rear seat mounts also, a previous owner installed new floors in mine which is why plan on using square tube, or the XJ pieces for the front seat mounts. do you have a build thread on the truck you pictured that i can follow? i also have a set of cloth seats like yours in the darker grey👍

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[motownXJdad]

3 hours ago, Minuit said:

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hey, do you repair aftermaket head units? i have a rare Alpine 1.5 din that needs repair. also i have a pretty decent maroon 3 spoke steering wheel and horn button if youre interested.