Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hey! I’ve usually been a social media guy, but as I’ve shifted away I’ve found this site most helpful so far. So I thought I start off by saying Hi and asking for some help. I just bought a 1989 Pioneer from a guy flipping it and didn’t know it’s history. I’ve figured out a few but unsure about others. So it’s SWB 4x4. It’s had the rear axle swapped for a 2006 KJ looks to be well done. Front driveshaft is missing but picked up a used one. Transmission appears to be a AX15 but lacks that middle plate that’s on most of them. It has 242 transfer case. 4L was replaced with one with 70km a few years ago (thanks to note in owners manual) but motor appears to be HO judging by valve cover. Several sensors in exhaust have no wires coming from them and some do. It came with the shifter boot off and when I put it on it started popping out of 4th. Noticed the console was also notched a smidge and the shifter is not MJ as it’s really tall. There’s also what sounded like a really loud exhaust leak but went over whole exhaust and header looks new and exhaust has no holes. Noise is only when accelerating, while constant speed or decel noise is gone. Seems rather low on power as well. I just ordered a xj shifter SS from reading posts on here seems like might be the issue. But don’t see why someone would cut the console and not just get right shifter as you can’t drive with boot on anyone. Looking to get 4x4 working, fix noise and figure out exactly all they’ve done. So any input on what transmission I have? If rear end would be limited slip or should I put a Dana back in? Looking to definitely get the shifter boot to function and fix the notch in the console. Thanks for any and all help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Trans looks like the NSG370 but IDK. Leave the 8.25 be, it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 If you look through the shifter hole in the floor pans you will see two white stickers. The numbers will tell you what Transmission it is. Judging by the height of the shifter it came out of Wrangler. If it's a five speed, it looks to be a nv3550 / if it's a six speed it's a NSG 370. Again those numbers will tell you exactly what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Transmission looks like an NV3550 to me, which means it's almost certainly out of a Wrangler. Which would make sense, as the Wrangler shifter is much taller than the MJ shifter. I'd say that the engine is probably out of the same Wrangler. It has a late valve cover and 99+ intake manifold. I don't see the computer that would normally go with the Wrangler engine, and I also see a Renix fuel pressure regulator so that's all probably still stock. The engine swap seems to be relatively neatly done based on the one picture. Is your transfer case touching or almost touching the transmission tunnel anywhere? The 8.25 is one of the best axle swaps you can do, so leave that if there isn't any problems with it. So - to sum it up, my guess is that both your engine and transmission are from a 2000-2004 Wrangler, and they kept the original fuel injection system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Jeep Driver said: Trans looks like the NSG370 but IDK. Leave the 8.25 be, it's good. Thanks for the tip. Just googled the nsg and definitely not that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Strokermjcomanche said: If you look through the shifter hole in the floor pans you will see two white stickers. The numbers will tell you what Transmission it is. Judging by the height of the shifter it came out of Wrangler. If it's a five speed, it looks to be a nv3550 / if it's a six speed it's a NSG 370. Again those numbers will tell you exactly what it is Thanks. I did pull the numbers and put them into the computer but neither produced any info. But the last number on each is not completely legible so I just guessed a few. It’s a 5 speed and looking at pictures of the nv3550 it appears to be that. If that’s the case will a MJ/XJ shifter solve my issue as looks like they cut a bit on the hole as well or would I need a ax15 to get back to proper fitment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Minuit said: Transmission looks like an NV3550 to me, which means it's almost certainly out of a Wrangler. Which would make sense, as the Wrangler shifter is much taller than the MJ shifter. I'd say that the engine is probably out of the same Wrangler. It has a late valve cover and 99+ intake manifold. I don't see the computer that would normally go with the Wrangler engine, and I also see a Renix fuel pressure regulator so that's all probably still stock. The engine swap seems to be relatively neatly done based on the one picture. Is your transfer case touching or almost touching the transmission tunnel anywhere? The 8.25 is one of the best axle swaps you can do, so leave that if there isn't any problems with it. So - to sum it up, my guess is that both your engine and transmission are from a 2000-2004 Wrangler, and they kept the original fuel injection system. Thank you. Everything seems have been done well. Wiring nearly zip tied under relay fuse cover, rear end clean installed. No issues other than tracking down noise and seemingly lack of power but I’ve never had a 4x4 with bigger tires, but originals were included. I will go check transfer case contact and get back to you on that. Other person mentioned it was the nv3550 as well. Is that the reason I’m hitting console and Not shifter? Consensus seems to be leave rear axle, should I get a different manual? That being said I might have a synchro issue as it grinds on shift to 2nd unless I take my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 An MJ/XJ shifter should fit. It separates from the shift tower, some have done it in place using two pickle forks (may dent your trans tunnel), search YouTube I know there's at least one video. Here's what the connection looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, fiatslug87 said: An MJ/XJ shifter should fit. It separates from the shift tower, some have done it in place using two pickle forks (may dent your trans tunnel), search YouTube I know there's at least one video. Here's what the connection looks like. Thanks. I ordered one off eBay so will try that when I get it. I’ll look for that video as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Canadian Pioneer said: Thank you. Everything seems have been done well. Wiring nearly zip tied under relay fuse cover, rear end clean installed. No issues other than tracking down noise and seemingly lack of power but I’ve never had a 4x4 with bigger tires, but originals were included. I will go check transfer case contact and get back to you on that. Other person mentioned it was the nv3550 as well. Is that the reason I’m hitting console and Not shifter? Consensus seems to be leave rear axle, should I get a different manual? That being said I might have a synchro issue as it grinds on shift to 2nd unless I take my time. Looks like the transfer case is touching. Four points that stick out from the case contact the tunnel. I’ll post some pics below, including cross member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pioneer Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 Here’s some pics of of 242 TC and the crossmember for the trans, not sure which one they’ve used and if maybe the mount could be reason for my shifter hitting back or console. Any suggestions on how to best can clearance on TC and if trans is mounted too high or wrong mount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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