Pete M Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I reused the TJ mounting bracket, but then I also made a custom crossmember for it to go on. If you can drill holes and make it work, than life is grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Yeah, not saying that you can't reuse parts in a custom fashion, but I'm just trying to save guys some time and aggravation by trying to use non-AX15 parts in a stock configuration......they just don't work, period. I know, I suffered through it way back when and finally figured out the differences after a billion trips to the junkyard to get the correct parts. There was even a thread on here a few months ago from a member in a similar situation as the OP is now. After 5 pages of us telling the guy what he needed to do, I still don't think he ever figured it out. Anything can be made to work with enough time, imagination, money and fabrication.....but trying to reuse a Peugot crossmember, or an AW4/AX5 one, or any of the other associated bracketry in original mounting locations with an AX15 just ain't gonna work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ok, well because of how hard it is to find manual cherokees, I'm probably just gonna use the YJ bracket and move the mount and exhaust bracket. The exhaust won't be that hard, but idk about the mount. The one on the YJ goes backwards and down, the old one on the peugeot just goes straight down. Not sure how or if I can overcome this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 If I do find a manual cherokee, how many where ax15s? Did they switch to all ax15s in 89 like the comanches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 yes. car-part.com can help locate the trans and then you can call and see if they still have the mount and crossmember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pete M said: yes. car-part.com can help locate the trans and then you can call and see if they still have the mount and crossmember. Ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 92 4wd XJ 5spd Jessup Maryland on the lot 8/3/2020 https://www.lkqpickyourpart.com/locations/LKQ_Pick_Your_Part_-_Jessup-206/recents/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liketosmash Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I ended up making a custom cross member from my AX4 / Peugot cross member. I had both and they are the same it seems. I paired this with a Daystar KJ01010BK poly mount which seems to be about an inch shorter than a normal mount. To make the cross member I cut off the top of the cross member and then welded a flat plate on to make it about the height of the ax15 cross member pictured earlier in this thread. If you don't care about clearance I think you could space down the cross member instead of cutting it. Likely you will still need to drill new holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 I wish someone would have mentioned that there was another whole set of bolt holes for you to just move the crossmember back one spot. For the longest time I was hung up on why the YJ bracket and every other XJ/MJ bracket for the AX15, including aftermarket went backwards too far. I found a guy on facebook who lives in Florida, he has a plate and maybe a few other things I can get. I also learned thru him that renix tachometer gauge clusters do exist with a cable speedo, but also that the process for swapping an electrical speedo isn't very hard at all. Not sure if I can get the gauge cluster from him bc hes trying to sell the MJ it's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Warren99 said: I also learned thru him that renix tachometer gauge clusters do exist with a cable speedo of course they do. 87-90 clusters go right in. If he has an electronic Speedo, does he have a 91-96? because that cluster as a whole is not compatible. also the odo can be adjusted on a cluster so there's no need to keep your old stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pete M said: of course they do. 87-90 clusters go right in. If he has an electronic Speedo, does he have a 91-96? because that cluster as a whole is not compatible. He has 2 MJs, both 89, both with a tach, but one is electric one is cable. I'm glad you just said that tho because I wasn't sure about the later model cherokees because of how they are missing a whole connector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 how did he do an electric speedometer without custom wiring? 84-90 were all cabled, 91-96 are all wired. that sounds like a ton of unnecessary work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 did you read the threads in the link in my sig? I'm pretty sure they mention using the other holes. and if not, we need to rectify that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pete M said: how did he do an electric speedometer without custom wiring? 84-90 were all cabled, 91-96 are all wired. that sounds like a ton of unnecessary work. He did use custom wiring. He basically said it was just 3 wires, you run the three from the back of the gauge cluster down to the trans or tc where the speedo cable should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 but... why? did the cable seize up and he didn't want to buy another and also had a spare 91+ cluster lying around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Idk, I thought he meant how to put a 91+ cluster into a 90- Jeep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 pretty sure the gauges work on different ohm ranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Oh ok, also I just called and actually both are electric speedos, but both are 89s. So how does that work, I thought that anything before 91 was cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I need some pics of whatever on earth he's talking about. something is amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Lol, so they are supposed to be cable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 the blue one in my photo is the 87-90 and that post is where the cable attaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Pete M said: the blue one in my photo is the 87-90 and that post is where the cable attaches I understand, I was asking if everything before 90 was strictly cable speedometers or if there were cables and electric until 91+ came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 all cable through 90. though 84 to early 87 had a slightly different clip style for the cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren99 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Ok, so the sweet spot is anything from 88-90. Could you still make the different clip style work by holding in with tape or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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