Dzimm Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Does anyone know what the stage 1 and 2 cams do as far as performance? Id be curious what the Dyno graphs look like and what all is included in the can kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’ll tell when I get home. I don’t have the catalogue but it has to do with the degree and in which the valves open up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Mohler Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Stage one-set timing for max HP-HP hydraulic cam#P452922-229-valve seal package#P4529240-valve spring conical#P4259215-conical retainer#P4529217-ecu#P4529334-header#P4529416-low restriction exhaust---Est.10 to 20 hp gain over stock........stage two--- add HP hydro cam#P4529230-231-centerline cam with bushing kit #P3690936- back cut valves #P4529212-213- engine oil cooler #P4529690- Est. gain 15 to 25 over stage one----stage three--add increase compression-HD rod bolts and nuts #P4529239- hydro. cam #P4529232-ported head #P4529202- intake man. attaching package #P4529680- good gas---20 to 30 over stage two. This is from my MOPAR Jeep performance book 1 hour ago, Dzimm said: Does anyone know what the stage 1 and 2 cams do as far as performance? Id be curious what the Dyno graphs look like and what all is included in the can kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 So stage 2 is 25-40hp then... Is it a complete kit with everything for it (I imagine you'd have to buy seals and stuff for stuff you take off)? Does the computer adjust for that or require the performance one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Stage one says ECU#P4529334 and stage two says "add..." so yes the performance ECU seems to be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Mohler Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dzimm said: So stage 2 is 25-40hp then... Is it a complete kit with everything for it (I imagine you'd have to buy seals and stuff for stuff you take off)? Does the computer adjust for that or require the performance one? as far as I know all parts were purchased separate. Book says nothing about a kit. Mopars way of making more $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, fiatslug87 said: Stage one says ECU#P4529334 and stage two says "add..." so yes the performance ECU seems to be required. Ahh missed that part. 5 minutes ago, Warren Mohler said: as far as I know all parts were purchased separate. Book says nothing about a kit. Mopars way of making more $ That's what I was afraid of. Makes it not so appealing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 I'm sure you can still run the cams and factory computer. The computer should still be able to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Mohler Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, eaglescout526 said: I'm sure you can still run the cams and factory computer. The computer should still be able to adjust. you could try larger injectors maybe, these ecu's I don't believe learned to much, even late model ecu will not handle extensive engine mods without being flashed or tuned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, eaglescout526 said: I'm sure you can still run the cams and factory computer. The computer should still be able to adjust. I'd imagine it would be quite low as far as gains if it did run with the factory ecu. Maybe that's what the low gain number is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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