vandior2001 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 going to get a 97-01 Cherokee 8.25 29 spline Monday from a junkyard. will i need to resize my drive shaft to fit? what years of liberty's can i get disc brakes from? is there anything i need to keep in mind for this swap other then bigger U bolts and spring perches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I used the same driveshaft but I am SOA. Remember to set the pinion angle to the tcase output angle if running single ujoints at each end. '02-'07 liberty for sure. Not sure about '08- newer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 I used the same driveshaft but I am SOA. Remember to set the pinion angle to the tcase output angle if running single ujoints at each end. '02-'07 liberty for sure. Not sure about '08- newer. SOA? i have a 5 spd short bed if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 http://comancheclub.com/topic/12163-acronyms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Found a guy selling a dana 44A from a ZJ, 98 i think is this a good swap of not worth the time and hassle? guy wants $50 for it. is there any gears / lockers for it???? thanks for the help !!! not planing on going above 4.11 gears / 35's or on towing anything other then a light boat or work trailer vand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Quick answer - it's a weak problematic POS. Not a good swap. Not even for $50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 so 8.25 29 spline is the better swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 For me, yes. It's stronger and more versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 thank you !!!!!! just saved me a 200 mile road trip lol and $50 will go fishing in the local JY tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 did a tire repair on a jeep commander the other day and got a good look at the rear axle, it's a beast what info i found says it's a American Axle & Manufacturing 830 (AAM830). said to be as strong or stronger then a dana44. anyone tried this swap? it's got disc brakes and a ELSD from the info i read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, vandior2001 said: did a tire repair on a jeep commander the other day and got a good look at the rear axle, it's a beast what info i found says it's a American Axle & Manufacturing 830 (AAM830). said to be as strong or stronger then a dana44. anyone tried this swap? it's got disc brakes and a ELSD from the info i read. Let us know what you find out. I thought they came either either the Chryco 8.25 or the D44HD (which is an odd duck of an axle, and not to be confused with the old D44HDs). A lot of AAM stuff is a bit of a pain because there is little aftermarket support, similar to the D44HD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 quick question seeing as i just bent my rear axle ............. ya for ice and deep ditches. if i get a Chry 8.25 or a aam 830 will my drive shaft still work or will it be to long / short????? also anyone know where i can get a short bed? complete hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 The Chrysler 8.25 and the XJ/MJ Dana 44 are both approximately 1-inch longer than the dana 35. I have no idea about the AAM 830 -- I've never seen one, and don't recall ever hearing/seeing it discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveevryjp1998 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I think what you need to pay more attention to is the spring perch location of the axle you are buying. You seem to be new at this. Are you aware that the pinion angle and spring perch will need setup and welded if its not a comanche axle? Study the link hornbrod sent you. Now research soa and sua. Your mj is sua. The 8.25 is soa with a different width perch mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandior2001 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 just got my new 4.5 lift spring (replacing my bent ones ) also ordered new upgrade spring perches and u bolts. i want to stay SUA that's why i got the new perches. i can just measure a 8.25 as the JY has a whole line of XJ's . if i get the commander axle i know i will have to cut the 4-link stuff off. Just need to go JY trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, vandior2001 said: just got my new 4.5 lift spring (replacing my bent ones ) also ordered new upgrade spring perches and u bolts. i want to stay SUA that's why i got the new perches. i can just measure a 8.25 as the JY has a whole line of XJ's . if i get the commander axle i know i will have to cut the 4-link stuff off. Just need to go JY trolling. Yeah, let us know about the commander axles, PnPs are full of them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Quote The rear ELSD axle is an American Axle & Manufacturing 830 (AAM830) with an Eaton EGerodisc limited slip unit, though it will actually apply enough pressure on the clutch plates to go to full lock if needed. It is said to be as strong or stronger than the Dana 44 on the Rubicons and is a full floating axle with unit bearings. I've heard of guys blowing up the CV shafts on the front, but I haven't heard of a single rear 830 failure. http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/5-general-commander-discussion/11962-rear-axle-identification.html 307 or 373..........those are your options, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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