Bonkers Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I recently purchased another MJ D44. I was told its an open diff with 3.55s. I also read that the "easy" way to tell is that if you spin one wheel, if the other spins in same direction then you have Trac-Lok (LSD.) The new axle spins opposite of each other - as advertised... ...except... I finally got around to sanding the rust off the BOM this afternoon and found 605325-14G. When I ran this number through Spicer I got "3.55 XJ Metric Ton w/Trac-Lok." Since I never heard of a MT XJ I am assuming they meant the Mj. Is there another way to identify if I have an open diff, or possibly a factory LSD with blown clutch packs? Part 2 of this question - A D44-LSD would be ideal for my build so if it does have it, what are my options? Its a decent axle and I was hoping not to spend hundreds rebuilding it (or if I did I would build an LSD anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockfrog Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Pop the cover. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 Easy enough - what am I looking for? Ive only been inside a diff once in my life and that did not end... well... Its time I start learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 "MT" means Metric Ton -- it was the heavy-duty version of the MJ, and that's why it had a D44 rather than a D35. The Trac-Lok is a clutch-type limited slip. When the clutches wear out, it then acts like an open differential. You can buy rebuild kits for around $60 to $75 (I think -- used to be $50, but I haven't followed the prices). Be sure to use friction modifier in the gear lube or you'll destroy the clutches very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 So the visual difference would mainly be in the housing itself (one square, one round?) Hopefully, unless someone specifically removed the OEM LSD, there is still a good chance that this axle is already set up and just needs a refresher then? That'll be good news for a change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 hmm normally theres more colors and dragons if there's LSD. :yes: but that's actually good information, my only knowledge is with ford axles, in which the "s" clip is normally the give away for LSD. so knowing round vs square is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You can almost be certain the Trac-Lok clutches are shot. Mine were when I found my MJ axle. Even if they were not gone I'd still replace them. 708203 Spicer Dana 44 Clutch Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 when replacing the clutch packs... is there a specific thickness to obtain? (similar to the carrier shims) or rather is it just a disk count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I had it done by the shop during the regear. https://drivetrainproductsreview.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/dana-trac-lok-rebuild/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 comanche mj Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 There will be a min max for the trac loc clutch stack. I don't know what it is. I think they are pretty crappy and would go with a true trac or locker. I had one in my tj dana 44 lucky option. It wasn't working so I rebuilt the clutch pack and set at max tolerance. Then it started eating up the spider gears and just went with a detroit locker. Just 33 inch tires, and not rock crawling or any serious off road stuff. And don't use synthetic lube, it will leak. I put new axles and seals in mine, all timken, and the synthetic 85 140 came right out the seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 comanche mj Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 It is not a disc count, it is a measurement, like 635 to 655 max, thats what it is on a 8.8 explorer. You shim it next to the steels not next to the friction discs. But the disc friction plate order has to be followed, you don't want the friction in direct contact with the outer or inner ends of the stack. The shims can be hard to find so I have used 1 worn original one and 1 new one included in the kit to get to the max tolerance. And soak the friction discs in modifier overnight after you get your measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Off topic a bit but is there a lunchbox style locker that will be accepted by the trac-loc d44 carrier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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