JeepcoMJ Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Boys, my front axle is bent in my good MJ. I have the axle outta the MJ that i'm scrapping...BUT the coil spring "mount" / pedistal on the right side is collapsed. So I'm thinking...I will have another axle, but I would actually rather use this one and build my own mounts that are stronger, and reinforce the entire axle at the same time with metal pipe welded around it as reinforcement, and plates for reinforcing the other parts. basically, i'm wondering...because this appears the time to do it....if I can raise the coil pedistals 2" higher for some lift. I know that I can, but can you offer me advice? I have 3" lift coils, but can get 4.5" ones, and new adjustable UCA and LCA's. the reason i'm thinking of doing it this way is that I'm going SOA with the 8.8 rear end, which will be about 6.5" of lift as it is... after the axles, next project is a 4 cylinder dakota ax15 (external slave) as it matches my bellhousing pattern on the 3.8. that would make me a bulletproof drivetrain, and have 3.73's for gearing with the 8.8 and dana 30 front. ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I'd copy this: http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Fla ... -1184.html or something similar depending on your exact wants. I see no problem with raising the coil buckets, as long as you've got the control arms to fix the caster. You'll want to rotate the buckets so they're level at the height you plan to run them at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I thik it would be easier and cheaper to buy 2" lift pucks instead of going through all that work of raisng coil buckets :brows: BTW I have dealt with Ballastic.. their shipping is slow as hell, and they bill your credit card before they ship the item. So I had paid for my parts about 2 weeks before they arrived. Here is the bad thing... the cut quality is poor on their brackets, looks like they were made with an old cutting tip. BTW did I say I order almost 800 bucks worth of crap, and stil got bad service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 I thik it would be easier and cheaper to buy 2" lift pucks instead of going through all that work of raisng coil buckets :brows: BTW I have dealt with Ballastic.. their shipping is slow as hell, and they bill your credit card before they ship the item. So I had paid for my parts about 2 weeks before they arrived. Here is the bad thing... the cut quality is poor on their brackets, looks like they were made with an old cutting tip. BTW did I say I order almost 800 bucks worth of crap, and stil got bad service it won't be cheaper, i get all the scrap metal i want for free and already have the square tube i think i'll use. as for easier, i already have to redo the right side as it's collapsed, why not beef it up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I think it depends on how much free time you have. If you have lots of it I say go for it. But, if you are like me time is pretty valuable. You can find non-disco HP30's fairly easily for around $100 to $150 in decent shape. If you are internet savy you could even find a 96' or 97' HP axle with the 297 joints in them already. That's the route I would go and then either sell the other axle or hold on to it for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 I fractured my ankle (according to the doctors...i disagree) so i've been down for a month and a half already, and have another month and a half to go...time is VERY available. I actually like having the disconnect axle. crazy i know...but i've not had a single problem with mine, as I installed it and replaced all the line. no leaks. but I do want the 297 ujoints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I remember a big dispute over on JU a few years back where everyone was saying the disco axles were stronger. So everyone started buying those instead of non-disco axles. I don't know which is stronger. Kinda funny though. When's the last time you heard of someone breaking a dana 30 axle tube off? I just ran what came on my MJ from the previous owner (a non-disco axle). Although I did add some goodies to it. :brows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 the only dana 30 I ever saw with something major wrong with it had the pumpkin shear off the left axle tube...so the diff blew up and the tube came out of the pumpkin.... and i only saw that in a pic. so I'm reinforcing everything i can, simply cause i got the time and might as well. i don't like non-disco axles, i don't like wheel hop on the corners...the truck this is going into is basically a street truck so beefing anything up is purely for the IF situation. as in IF i ever take it wheeling in anything more than some dirt or grass, I would like to know it's done right and capable. heavy duty dana 30 front, 8.8 rear, ax15 from a dakota, and buick 3.8 from a 96 camaro...not ONE part of that truck's drivetrain is original even now, much less after i put those parts in! bulletproof too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Sounds like it's going to be awesome. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Get 95 YJ shafts for 297 joints and a disco axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 10-4. thanks Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86FUBAR Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 i was just talking to a friend to day telling him how i was going to trus the rubi 44 i got for the manche , Hopefuly gona do it on sunday, anways he seemed to think i was crazy but i asured him that they do bend. besides I'm not gona risk tearing up my 44 even though i got it for free. i do hate to lose the ground clearence from the trus but its worth the peace of mind, especialy after i throw n cromos/air locker and a hub conversion. ?how do u know its bent and how did u crush the spring bucket , lastly is said axel out of ur dd (project 3800)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 yes, the bent axle is out of the 3800. the front left tire toes out on the bottom, and in on the top. it's bent on the upper knuckle and has been since i first built the truck. it DOES effect my steering alignment...although I did adjust the alignment to compensate. the axle with the crushed coil bucket is off of my project tatersalad, which I am scrapping. it's straight, the truck just tips to the side. I may have another 30 axle on the way, but I want to test my ideas on this one first for reinforcement purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 When's the last time you heard of someone breaking a dana 30 axle tube off? it's not the tube that's any stronger on the disco axle, it's the passenger side upper control arm mount. It's a cast affair cast into the disco housing, rather than the stamped steel job on the non disco housings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 I will reinforce it then. even cast iron...I have a welder who can do that for me for very cheap. it's his profession. that and welding aluminum for aircrafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I will reinforce it then. even cast iron...I have a welder who can do that for me for very cheap. it's his profession. that and welding aluminum for aircrafts all the stamped steel one needs is the welds finished, and the ends boxed in and it would be just as stout. stupid factory welds stop 1/2" from the end of the bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I fractured my ankle (according to the doctors...i disagree) so i've been down for a month and a half already, and have another month and a half to go...time is VERY available. I actually like having the disconnect axle. crazy i know...but i've not had a single problem with mine, as I installed it and replaced all the line. no leaks. but I do want the 297 ujoints... 1995 YJ will have the 297x shafts and disconnects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 psh, good luck for me finding one though. the yard I go to has about 5 parts from wranglers...the rest have been removed by greedy wrangler owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 You can also buy 95 wrangler shafts new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 You can also buy 95 wrangler shafts new. the only part of the wrangler shaft you need is the passenger side stub and outer axleshaft. You can rob the drivers side with a 297 joint from anything that has a D30 in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 You can also buy 95 wrangler shafts new. you can buy parts NEW?!?!??!?! :hmm: I had NO idea!!!!!!!!!! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 p.s. that wasn't sarcasm directed at your statement...it was more of a "i wish" than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I knew that. :D I like 87manche's idea. That would make it a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 http://www.bayauto.com shows a couple 95 wrangler front ends for $143 and $110. The cheaper one is listed as 4.10 so you should be able to recoup your money by selling the housing. It's a 3 hour drive from you though... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I bent Pongs first d30 which was a disco axle down in Tellico :eek: Yeah it was due to driver error and probably wouldn't happen if I didn't try and take a stupid line :brows: As for the non disco housings.. I suggest trussing the top off the axle, and limiting up travel, instead of trussing the bottom and reducing ground clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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