Comanche County Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Look, Russia is a essentially just a big giant third world country that should have never tried to match us culturally, economically, or militarily. They're seriously a massive country of alcoholic back woods rednecks, and I'd match all my kin against theirs any day except when the winter Olympics are in question...... So far in the olympics, it looks like we should have never challenged them on the ice rink. Gotta pick your battle right and take your losses. We're gettin whooped in skating and I doubt we'll repeat 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Russia has been ravaged for a very long time by incompetent, corrupt politicians and governments but the one thing they will always be the best at is winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Give credit where its due, Russians can skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Russia has been ravaged for a very long time by incompetent, corrupt politicians and governments... And we haven't? :brows: Yet strangely Putin is more popular and powerful than our POTUS I think we generally beat Russia in the medal counts don't we? I know it was a special pleasure to blow up the Canucks on their home turf a few years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 1980, while very exciting, was a one-game fluke. If they had a 2 out of 3 playoff series for the gold it probably would have never happened. Sadly, the only shot I see we (USA) have to medal in hockey now is the women. And frankly, I really don't care about women's hockey. Or basketball. It's like slow motion. I rather watch curling............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Seen a segment on one of the morning shows about women's curling...stereotype image shattered, yeah I'd watch women's curling, from what i HEARD takes real skill too (eyes busy watching the game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I know it was a special pleasure to blow up the Canucks on their home turf a few years ago... Sorry, what? I see your pile of consolation prizes and raise you 14 gold medals to your 10. No one up here got blown up, but you're welcome to continue thinking that... And frankly, I really don't care about women's hockey. I rather watch curling............. Yeah, we'll be cleaning the floor with the other women's hockey teams. That's just a given. I agree I'd rather watch the curling. And yes, it takes skill. Sliding a 40lb rock over 100ft down the ice and then having it stop just where you want it to ain't easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I know it was a special pleasure to blow up the Canucks on their home turf a few years ago... Sorry, what? I see your pile of consolation prizes and raise you 14 gold medals to your 10. No one up here got blown up, but you're welcome to continue thinking that... Teasing doesn't come over well on the 'net. I was comparing the Canadians, close friends, to the Russians, decades long adversaries, as the comparison is not apples to apples. Absurd comparisons are a type of humor. But to put things in perspective so that neither of us will have to think "that": The Great White North wouldn't even win Bronze in their strong suit the Winter Olympics. The medal winners would be Gold = Norway. Silver = USA. Bronze = USSR/Russia. Anything but Gold may be a consolation price but it beats not even getting to sit at the grown-ups table. I guess when you are 8th why try harder? http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/02/winter-olympics-medal-count-sochi-all-time-facts/ As winter Olympic sports are something that a small percentage of our population just plays at for the most part ( with much of our country never seeing sub-freezing temperatures or snow) if ya want to get serious would you care to compare total summer Olympic medal counts or total combined Olympic medal counts? :cheers: (BTW: Every website that I can find shows a different medal count for 1988 than you cite. Can you post a link about it or something? I am not doubting them but my google-foo is weak.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Mm... bringing up the past. The best way to win any argument. You were referring to the Vancouver 2010 Olympics. That's what the numbers were for. I pulled them from the Wikipedia article, and what do you know, you're right. I did quote them wrong... you guys only got nine Gold medals to our fourteen. Also worth noting, that's the most Gold medals a nation has ever won in a single Winter Olympics. And as of this moment, we're sitting at the top of the leader board for this year's Olympics, with two Gold and then our two silver pulling us ahead of everyone else tied with two Golds. Not that it really means anything when we're only a couple days in. :cheers: Cheers, and good luck to ya! Our athletes don't need the luck :thumbsup: And yes, I know it's all in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We are American...we don't need luck....or stinkin' badges :rock on: :peek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Canucks taking command of the short track so far tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Total medal count as of 9:30 EST 2/13/14: Norway 13 (4/3/6) USA 12 (4/2/6) TIE: Canada 10 (4/4/2) Netherlands 10 (4/2/4) The Ruskies: 9 (2/4/3) Germany 8 (6/1/1) You gotta respect Norway and the Netherlands for once again bringing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 And as of now, Germany in First with 7/2/1, Canada in second with 4/4/2 and Norway in third with 4/3/6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Womens Hockey: Canada 3, USA 2. Your bulls beat our bulls. :yes: They were body checking each other pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Winning on a disputable goal as time expires is hardly mopping a floor with an opponent. Good game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 There's just something about women's Super G.... Julia Mancuso, :brows: Anna Fenninger :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The suits are slowing down the American speed skaters. Ya, right. I hate excuses......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I know, we lost Apolo Ohno, now its the suits fault... :doh: btw, I would like to refer you to: http://www.tnsportsradio.com/2014/02/06/10-hottest-women-2014-winter-olympics/3/ (okay, I'll stop now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I know, we lost Apolo Ohno, now its the suits fault... :doh: btw, I would like to refer you to: http://www.tnsportsradio.com/2014/02/06/10-hottest-women-2014-winter-olympics/3/ (okay, I'll stop now) I volunteer to assist with "international relations" Funny how they count standings in the Olympics...it makes about as much sense as how they award the venues..... Total medals don't count. We are tied with the canucks for golds but they have two more silvers while we have 4 more bronze. We also beat their medal totals but they are listed one ahead off us. Hmmm... If they assigned a value to each medal (3-G,2-S,1- B) than we would be tied for 2nd with 28 each to Germany's 29. The tie breaker, most medals, would go to us. As it stands we are 5th and 6th despite our having tied the Ruskies for most medals and Canada in a 3-way tie with the Netherlands & Norway for 2nd. Oh, well. It will be decades before they catch us in total winter olympic medals at this rate!!!! :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW86 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The suits are slowing down the American speed skaters. Ya, right. I hate excuses......... i laughed so hard at that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Don't find the standings count funny at all. You take first place. You get a gold. That single first place is worth more than any number of second places. So you "win" by getting the most wins. This way, no one could be said to have "won" without actually outright winning anything. You have to remember that the point of the Olympics is to find the world's best athletes. Doesn't really make sense to say "oh, we have the most not-quite-best athletes"... Winning is everything at the Olympics. Seems like a very American approach... funny there's an American complaining about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have no problem in the way medals are weighed and agree with the above. As Coach Lombardi said, "winning is everything". Frankly, I'm very disappointed with the USA's performance (or non-performance) so far, and there is no way you can sugarcoat it. And three of four USA golds are from snowboard events, events I consider trash sports from the X-Games and have no place in the Winter Olympics. The other gold is in "Freestyle Skiing". WTF is that? Dancing on skis? Give me a break. Then the speed skaters whining about the suits being the problem as to why they sucked was a nice touch too. Let's face it: The USA is maintaining the status quo or declining in some cases in the preparation and execution of both Winter and Summer Olympic sports, while most other countries are improving every year. Our abysmal mens boxing team's performance at the 2012 Olympics is an good example - not one medal of any color. And we used to dominate mens boxing just a few years ago. :shake: Oh well, it is what it is and I don't see any changes forthcoming any time soon. A mens hockey gold or even the ladies hockey gold would sure be nice about now................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Don't get me started on boxing. My favorite winter event is the downhill Super G. That is skiing IMO! I think we've had some hard breaks so far. An Olympic Gold requires absolute perfection and we've been close but mishaps and slips have bit us in the behind. To be an Olympian requires a lifetime of devotion to the sport. They only get one chance in the games, and every country's athletes have probably performed "perfect 10s" in their respective events 1000 times in practice....its kinda heartbreaking to see an athlete, from any country, make a mistake when you know they trained so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I get the winning is everything but this is not really a team sport event in its totality. By that process a country can win 5 golds and no other medals and "win" the Olympics while another country can have 4 Golds and 21 Silvers and be behind the first country. If winning is all that matters and to score it the current way just give golds. Yes, we are on the decline. Part of it is the continued wussification of our kids by helicopter parents and PC policies and part is the dilution of the skill pool by there being so many other sports to draw the athletes. The X-games is a prime example. But being on the decline means you were at least at the top at some point. The crash by Jacobellis in snowboarding is a good example, to me, of that one little mistake Comanche Country is talking about. Then that dingy American speed skater got DQ'd for doing something stupid to try to go from first to second at the finish line in a heat race when the top three advance...that wasn't sad but frustrating to watch. I dated a girl in high school who was the daughter of our Olympic hockey goalie in '64 & '68. He had some very interesting stories about the Olympics even back then.... :brows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Unfortunately my news feed's 9:05 EST 2/17/14 update only lists the top 7 countries so I don't know where Canada is in the standings now. We remain 5th due to the Gold-only scoring. We would be first without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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