Biotex Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 My shop is a stand alone 20' x 40' metal building with R panel walls. I can easily fit two vehicles inside one behind the other. It is a pain to move the back one out at times, so I decided to add on a 12' x 20' on to the side. Basically an L shape and add another roll up door.So, I started the foundation work yesterday, Cleared the ground, installed the batter boards, etc...I was admiring my progress when it suddenly dawned on me that in order to pour the concrete at the same level as the main shop, I will have to remove the R panels because else they will be 2" inside the cement. Those panels are 12' high, and there is insulation behind them. If I remove them to pour, I open my shop up to the elements which means I can't take my time about putting up the rest of the building.If I cut the tin, then I can't reuse it. It is only a couple of years old, so the plan was to reuse it.Any suggestions on how best to proceed? If I put a board up against the tin and pour, then I will have a channel to fill and have two joint cracks instead of only one.HELP.... :hmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Here is my shop when I was working on the Willys: In this picture, the addition will be to the right. The wall behind the work bench will become opened up from I beam to I beam (20') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinMJ Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I love that old willys. My grandfather had one like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can't comment on the architecture stuff but that's a beautiful Willys and a nice shop, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreman1063 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Pour the concrete right up against the panels, just put some six mil plastic between the panel and concrete to form a break. Also remove any screw that will be below the concrete and you will be able to remove the panels later if it becomes necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Pour the concrete right up against the panels, just put some six mil plastic between the panel and concrete to form a break. Also remove any screw that will be below the concrete and you will be able to remove the panels later if it becomes necessary. Ahhh Yes, I could then caulk the space with some latex or something. Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreman1063 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Good luck with the addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Good luck with the addition. It's coming along nicely. I'm doing most of the work myself, so it is slow. I'm just about ready for concrete. I'm debating using fibered cement so I can save from having to install steel. Rebar in the footings for sure, maybe just wire mesh in the slab. Still deciding... I'm going to install some anchors in the cement so I can hook chains to in case I need to straighten a bumper or tweek a frame. Size of the addition is 12' x 20' added on to a 20' x 40' existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreman1063 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Nice job swinging those forms, looks like you've done it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbyrambler Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Well . . . FWIW . . Do U know who you're gonna buy the concrete from? What bag mix U plan on? The supplier will have a pretty good idea of intended use just from the size of the order & knows an analysis isn't likely - - There's a really good chance you're gonna get 5 bag mix regardless of what U specify - Fiber? - - Meant to combat shrinkage cracks IIRC - mostly for outdoor apps & same as bag mix- probably won't happen regardless, except in the $s U pay - - Speaking from Family business exper - Mobile home/Trailer pads - Shame a guys gotta watch everything - - - - You probably know the rest, but JIC - - Gonna continue with Pole Barn type construction? - footing rebar's overkill if so - - now's the time to set the poles or make the footing deeper where they're gonna be - - don't know your soil type but I'd use pole pads anyway if poles are going in ground - Floor mesh 4 sure & rebar in footing where an overhead/vehicle door might go, but really, for the size of it, the $ savings won't be huge to not reinforce everything - Also time for termite treatment under the pour - Line everything with plastic before pour & cover with plastic afterwards & keep wet at least 5 days - - - Truck gonna be able to get along side the pour? Dragging that stuff's no fun - - - Just reread this & not all concrete guys are cheats - same as used car guys - Just enough of 'em, ya know? Anyway, Looking good, keep the pics coming, especially 1 of the day when it's all done & you're standing in the middle of it thinking "All right! Look at all this room!" - Should bring a smile when U're planning the next one. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Nice job swinging those forms, looks like you've done it before. I've done it many times. Thanks! Well . . . FWIW . . Do U know who you're gonna buy the concrete from? What bag mix U plan on? The supplier will have a pretty good idea of intended use just from the size of the order & knows an analysis isn't likely - - There's a really good chance you're gonna get 5 bag mix regardless of what U specify - Fiber? - - Meant to combat shrinkage cracks IIRC - mostly for outdoor apps & same as bag mix- probably won't happen regardless, except in the $s U pay - - Speaking from Family business exper - Mobile home/Trailer pads - Shame a guys gotta watch everything - - - - You probably know the rest, but JIC - - Gonna continue with Pole Barn type construction? - footing rebar's overkill if so - - now's the time to set the poles or make the footing deeper where they're gonna be - - don't know your soil type but I'd use pole pads anyway if poles are going in ground - Floor mesh 4 sure & rebar in footing where an overhead/vehicle door might go, but really, for the size of it, the $ savings won't be huge to not reinforce everything - Also time for termite treatment under the pour - Line everything with plastic before pour & cover with plastic afterwards & keep wet at least 5 days - - - Truck gonna be able to get along side the pour? Dragging that stuff's no fun - - - Just reread this & not all concrete guys are cheats - same as used car guys - Just enough of 'em, ya know? Anyway, Looking good, keep the pics coming, especially 1 of the day when it's all done & you're standing in the middle of it thinking "All right! Look at all this room!" - Should bring a smile when U're planning the next one. :thumbsup: On the two corners that tie in to the existing shop, there are I beams that will be used to tie in the add on. The footing there was dug out larger. The outside corners of the add on will get enlarged a bit, and as for the soil, it is too hard to dig without a pry bar or pick. The footing is down to the hard pan. Like concrete... The framing will be all 8" perlins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I was about to ask you if you were sure the ground wasn't just frozen solid. Then I saw your location, lol. Hard ground makes for decent footings, but there's not much of it around these parts... it all turns to mush every spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Frozen ground? :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: I'm playing golf today in 70°F weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I played a round of golf yesterday with a tennis ball and potato canon. It wasn't bad, except for the 0°F windchill and the knee-deep snow. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbyrambler Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I've done it many times. Thanks! On the two corners that tie in to the existing shop, there are I beams that will be used to tie in the add on. The footing there was dug out larger. The outside corners of the add on will get enlarged a bit, and as for the soil, it is too hard to dig without a pry bar or pick. The footing is down to the hard pan. Like concrete... The framing will be all 8" perlins. Sounds like you know how to swing a hammer - Big perlins for the size/structure - Roof also? Up here this close to Arkansas they're PURLINS - LOL :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 Yeah, the pUrlins will be 8" either ZEE or CEE on the roof as well. We get 60mph gusts frequently, so I always engineer to a minimum of 90mph wind load. Once the structure is up and sealed, and before it gets dusty or dirty, i'm going to use it to paint Maura in. A buddy has a professional paint booth inside his garage, but being in the city limits, some neighbors ratted him out and the code police shut him down. I'm in the county! I'll be spraying a single stage acrylic urethane, but will probably mix in a bit of clear on the final coat for added hardness and shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 Made some progress on the add-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornindesert Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Sweet! nicely done. What's the box on stilts? Assuming it's your AC condensor but it almost looks filtration like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Sweet! nicely done. What's the box on stilts? Assuming it's your AC condensor but it almost looks filtration like... Swamp cooler! I'm going to relocate it soon. I started reorganizing and moving in to the new space. Loving the extra room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COFFMAN Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 A man must have shed, don't trip over the anchor in the floor. Nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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