aerocorey Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I posted a want ad in classifieds asking for someone to wrench on my truck for me since I'm out of the area. I read the forum rules before I posted. 1 Name a price for your item, don't just say "best offer" or "this is a feeler". Guess a price if you have to. 2 State where in the world the item is. Bonus points if you put it in the title. 3 When the item sells, put "SOLD!" in the title. 4 Be nice to each other. I wasn't selling an item, I was asking for services directly related to my MJ. This is not prohibited by the rules. In fact I'd like to note that the rules don't address want ads at all even though the classifieds are chock full of want ads. Perhaps they should all be deleted. (1) I did not list a price because it was a wanted ad, not a for sale ad. Nobody else with a want ad lists a price either. (2) I listed the ZIP code in the title. (3) I had every intention of listing "found" in the title if someone answered the ad. (4) It was very nice. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13781 This guy has 1 post on the forum and he directly violated rule #1. He got 2 warnings, 1 from a mod, and his ad is still there. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13055 This guy broke rule #2 and his ad was fixed for him without his knowledge. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11181 This guy isn't selling anything. He's providing info for others to buy stuff he doesn't even have yet. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13510 This guy is selling a rifle for crying out loud. I'd like my ad put back please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I don't know. I typically don't delete posts. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 and he is the boss lol hay pete :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13781 This guy has 1 post on the forum and he directly violated rule #1. He got 2 warnings, 1 from a mod, and his ad is still there. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13055 I give them a couple days before I delete the post. I did delete it tonight. This guy broke rule #2 and his ad was fixed for him without his knowledge. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11181 That was before I was a MOD, can't help ya there. This guy isn't selling anything. He's providing info for others to buy stuff he doesn't even have yet. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13510 That was a group buy put into place by a member. It was moved from the forums to the for sale section some time ago. This guy is selling a rifle for crying out loud. I'd like my ad put back please. Nothing wrong with selling a rifle for crying out loud. He is also trying to trade it for a truck. I was not the one who deleted your post. I did not see it at all to be honest. I have been a little bit busy the last few weeks. I can say one thing. I do feel you are taking this "they deleted my post" thing a little too far. You have 2 threads on it now. Repost your thread in the for sale section. Make sure you put in the post that you are deployed and what not. Make sure you post that I said you can leave it there. I think the mods will leave it be then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 It is possible for the post to have been eaten by a glitch. It would be the first to happen since the upgrade though. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 hay pete if nobody deleted it, could he have hit the preview button and never hit the submit button? :fool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Did it have the location in the title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocorey Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 I can say one thing. I do feel you are taking this "they deleted my post" thing a little too far. You have 2 threads on it now. Repost your thread in the for sale section. Make sure you put in the post that you are deployed and what not. Make sure you post that I said you can leave it there. I think the mods will leave it be then. Thanks for the public reply. I appreciate the feedback. I don't have 2 threads about it. The thread in tech is about my crank sensor. I didn't think tech was an appropriate place to discuss this, so I started this thread. There have been 4 post by mods in my tech thread addressing my classified ad being deleted since I started this thread. 2 are from the mod who deleted my ad. He has yet to post in this thread. 1 was from you piping up because Eagle forgot to tell everyone that you are a mod now. Congratulations, by the way. I had the location in the title. I also listed that I am stationed overseas in the ad. And, just to be clear, I am not deployed. I am at a permanant duty station overseas which means it could be as many as 3 years before I get home to fix my truck. I don't want to drum up deployment sympathy to get this fixed, I just want it fixed because it's wrong. The mod who deleted my ad says the reason he didn't notice the other incorrect ads is bacause he's not on here 24 hours a day. This isn't a good explanation since I posted my ad right before bed and it was gone when I woke up. The first ad I linked to as an example had been in place longer than my ad. It has been deleted now. The ad for the rifle has been there since the 16th. Yeah, he's trying to trade it for an MJ, but that's crap. I'm on a bunch of other auto forums too, this is the only one that I can think of that would let an ad for a rifle stay in classifieds. I'm not trying to pick a fight with mods here. I was on the old Yahoo board several years ago when I turned my previous MJ into Frankenjeep. I couldn't have done it without you guys. You helped me sort out my ignition gremlin last winter. I figured this was a good place to look for help getting my truck sorted out so I don't have to sell it. I was soliciting, so I figured classifieds was apropriate. I followed the applicable rules for a want ad (both of them, #1 and #4 :shake: ). I don't think making a thread here is taking anything too far. I'd like my ad put back please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocorey Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Did it have the location in the title? It had a ZIP code. The truck is in an little town in NY with a funny name that I spell wrong most of the time. I figured a ZIP code would be okay. EDIT: I just visited my tech post about soldering crank sensor leads and found that the mod who deleted my ad posted about it there instead of here. He says I didn't list a location in the title. I don't think tech is an appropriate place for this discussion, but that's where he replied, so that's where I replied. This is my reply copied from that thread. I'm done here, and there, until it's put back. "And since I'm here, I didn't notice that the moderator who deleted my ad had posted a reply here. I don't think this was an appropriate place for his reply. I started a thread in the "Forum Issues" area. I was expecting a reply there if anywhere. My ad had a ZIP code in the title. Few people are aware of Austerlitz, and it's spelled funny, so I used a ZIP code instead of the name of the town so it would be easier to look up. I have worked with many people who grew up within an hour of Austerlitz and had never heard of it. For exapmle, Albany is 41 minutes from Austerlitz. The Albany-Schenectady-Troy metropolitan area has 850,957 residents. I'm sure most of them have never heard of Austerlitz with its 1,453 residents. Austerlitz is a mere 133 miles from New York City with its 19 million residents. I won't get into how many people from Massachusets, Connecticut, and Vermont are close to Austerlitz but have probably never heard of it. Everyone knows their ZIP code, and if someone sees that it's similar to theirs they might look into it. This was a calculated decision to generate the most legitimate responses to my ad. There's an ad in classifieds for a rifle with "Indiana" as a location. Indiana coveres 36,420 square miles. There's a brush guard in AZ (114,006 square miles), a bed in PA (46,058 square miles), and front end suspension in SC (32,007 square miles) in the classifieds now. ZIP code 12017 covers 17 square miles, where as the entire town of Austerlitz covers 49 square miles. I'd call 12017 a specific location, and it was in the title. And the truck is about 1/2 mile from the post office for 12017, so if you look it up on MapQuest the arrow will be covering my truck. Perhaps the mod could have sent me a message saying, "Thank you for placing a specific location in the title. We at ComancheClub prefer that state names rather than ZIP codes are used in ad titles. We realize our vague and simple rules don't state this, but it's what we prefer. You have 24 hours to fix it. Thanks for using ComancheClub." I'd like my ad put back please." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLHTAZ Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I'd like my ad put back please." You keep saying this, but what you have to realize is, if the "delete" button was used to remove the ad, it is gone and can not be recovered. You will have to post it again yourself unfortunately. If the mods here use a hidden forum to move stuff like this too, as we do on the site that I admin, then it could simply be "moved" back in to place, but I get the feeling that it was deleted and is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sadly your post was permanetly deleted, Deleted topic » Wanted: Someone to wrench on my truck near 12017 You will have to retype it if you would like to have it back. There is nothing the Admin on this site can do to get it back, sorry. As far as off roader not looking in this thread to respond to this post. I understand it, I never come in here, unless I am having a problem I do not venture that far south on the forum. He may have just not looked at the post. How about you PM him and you 2 work it out back channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocorey Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 I keep stating it because it's what I'd like, and I'm trying to be courteous about this despite how irritated I am. I figured as soon as I saw it was gone that it was gone for good, but I wasn't sure how this board was set up so it seemed worth asking. Since it never should have been deleted, and I'd like it put back, and it can't be put back, perhaps an apology is in order from the mod who deleted it. I didn't think that would be too much to expect, but since I've had to ask for it it wouldn't mean squat. I'll repost the ad. How about you PM him and you 2 work it out back channel? Why would I do that? I came here to ask the big question about my ad being deleted (see thread title). He sent me a PM and posted about it in the other thread you cleaned up. There was no apology anywhere, just some BS. I have nothing else to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sadly your post was permanetly deleted, Deleted topic » Wanted: Someone to wrench on my truck near 12017 You will have to retype it if you would like to have it back. There is nothing the Admin on this site can do to get it back, sorry. As far as off roader not looking in this thread to respond to this post. I understand it, I never come in here, unless I am having a problem I do not venture that far south on the forum. He may have just not looked at the post. that's a BS excuse. if you're a mod, do your job and browse the forums. you are a mod for every forum on comancheclub.com. if you aren't going to do that, then why are you a mod. I completely agree with the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Sadly your post was permanetly deleted, Deleted topic » Wanted: Someone to wrench on my truck near 12017 You will have to retype it if you would like to have it back. There is nothing the Admin on this site can do to get it back, sorry. As far as off roader not looking in this thread to respond to this post. I understand it, I never come in here, unless I am having a problem I do not venture that far south on the forum. He may have just not looked at the post. that's a BS excuse. if you're a mod, do your job and browse the forums. you are a mod for every forum on comancheclub.com. if you aren't going to do that, then why are you a mod. I completely agree with the OP Look at the Moderator list before you talk...I'm only the MOD of the CLASSIFIEDS so i cannot do anything in the other forums...The only reason i come in here to is if I'm having a problem with the webpage as SHELBYLUV stated....i was told to enforce the rules and i did so without any issues...nobody else complained when their post got removed..most of them asked why and i gave them a response and instead of complaining about it they reposted with the correct format...Simple....IT easy...in your title put your location STATE(or state abreviation?) and it won't get locked/removed :shake: ....i was told to enforce the rules b/c i spent most of my time in there fixed incorrect title posts...i will not apologize for doing what i was asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocorey Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2849 Listen up, tough guy, I did ask why my ad was deleted. I started a whole thread to find out why my ad was deleted. We're in it now, genius. You didn't reply to it until now. You replied in my tech thread which, in my opinion, was an inappropriate place to comment. That's why I started this thread in the first place, to keep my tech thread about tech. You also sent me a PM with no explanation other than "incorrect format". Furthermore, nobody asked you to delete threads with ZIP codes in the title in place of state abbreviation codes. That's not in the rules anywhere. I read them before I posted. The rules say "State where in the world the item is. Bonus points if you put it in the title." That doesn't mean I have to list the state, it means I have to state the location..as in to declare definitely or specifically, to set forth formally in speech or writing, to set forth in proper or definite form, to say, to fix or settle, as by authority. The federal government and the USPS seems to think ZIP codes are quite specific, I think they should suit your needs. What if I was in Canada or Mexico or Italy where they don't use states? Are you implying that people outside the US don't live in specific locations? It's either that or you don't know how to read a complete sentence with the word "state" in it. Also, the rule doesn't say the location has to be in the title. It says I get bonus points for putting it in the title, which I would like to redeem now please. If you want to make up additional rules you need to check with the real mods first and then add them to the rules page. You should do it by asking Pete (nicely, in accordance with rule #4) to add your new rule to the numbered rules listed in the first post of the rules thread, not by adding a post at the bottom and hoping people will notice you added a rule. I followed the rule you added, by the way. If anyone wants to see how the ad was originally titled and formatted it has been reposted in classifieds. See for yourself. You also need to check your attitude. JeepcoMJ never said you needed to change anything in this section (he never said you needed to change anything). He was talking to shelbyluvv, and he said mods should BROWSE each section of the forum. You found my tech thread and decided to post in it. You found this. You aren't the mod in tech of here, but you sure managed to post messages. Wierd. If you were told to spend less time fixing titles and more time deleting bad threads perhaps you should use that extra time to make better decisions about which threads are bad, and maybe you could learn to type a coherent sentence. Given or not, you owe me an apology. No doubt. Good day, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I remind you guys about rule number one. :cheers: But anyway, it seems this was all my fault. I didn't specify that I prefer to lock threads rather than delete them. Deleting is a too permanent in my opinion, but I failed to share that believe with our new helper-mods. I never noticed the deletions and so until now didn't realize my mistake. So I apologize for that and I think we're all on the same page now as far as that goes. :thumbsup: So as long as you guys can forgive each other and carry on, I think this occurrence was, in the end, a good thing for the forums in that it help iron out some rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocorey Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 I remind you guys about rule number one. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLHTAZ Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I remind you guys about rule number one. ??? Site rules... --> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1239 ;) :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Oops, yeah I mean #1 from the rules for the entire forums, not the classifieds. :doh: I bet that was mildly confusing. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yup moving on now :typing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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