jep8b Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 :popcorn: Ok so me and a friend were sitting in my 87' Mj he was fiddling around with the steering when it locked. I was never given a key when I bought it due to it working without it, now I was really mad at the time :fs1: , but I knew my buddy was really good with Google and trusted that he'd find and way to solve this problem. The next day he called me and said most people with Xjs and Mjs that don't need the key and have locked there steering go to the dealer and have a key made, or the grab that steering wheel and turn it and break that son ah B, well I called the Dealer and they said that it was to old to make one from the vin :hmm: . So I grab that wheel and broke it. I could now steer it :D BUt then I realized that I couldnt turn the ignition key, OH KNOW!! :???: SO I was hoping that one of you experts could help me out, what you did, what you know people did, what can work, or just your thoughts on my situation compared to similar situations you had. Thanks everybody :wavey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Awesome... Change the lock cylinder... Or the whole colum. Look in the boneyard for one that has the options you want, and comes with keys. Or, hire a locksmith. Or, I could tell you which wires to cross for the temp fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Read this http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=939364&highlight=switch+removal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 if u get under the dash or drop colum down and pull the plugs off the ignition swith u can wire it with a togle switch and a push button to start it it will work that is how my truck is set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep8b Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 :cheers: Oh wow everybody thanks a lot, that link helped out but I kind of like the idea of a switch start..hmm bigd44889 you think maybe you could send me some Fo instructions for how to do it, I like that idea. I just bought all the switches that go in the dash but obviously I don't need a power transmission switch or a heated back window since I don't have either :D so I'd like to use those and get that done, so I'll prob Pm you but THANKS EVERYBODY!!!! :waving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 ghetto. fix it right or don't do it at all. :fool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep8b Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 settle down bro, I don't use it as a daily driver, i have a TJ for that, shes just a project truck thats only use is offroading :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project88mj Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 if u get under the dash or drop colum down and pull the plugs off the ignition swith u can wire it with a togle switch and a push button to start it it will work that is how my truck is set up :needpics: :needpics: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 yes pm sent and i will post some pics looks bad right now need to remount switches to cold to do it right now no garage ps can;t do it right nut striped and not pulling calum out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 if you do end up needing a column its about a 30 minute swap. the column comes out super easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 oh jeepco its not getto its hillbilly not all of us are perfict and i have held a key on over and over in big rock gardins i like the button alot easyer in fingers ps we don't all drive sreet trucks :fs1: :fool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 oh jeepco its not getto its hillbilly not all of us are perfict and i have held a key on over and over in big rock gardins i like the button alot easyer in fingers ps we don't all drive sreet trucks :fs1: :fool: it's hillbilly when you break the column to get it done. the switch is not the ghetto part, it's the manner in which it's done. and, IDK if you've noticed, but the truck I've currently got is NOT a street truck. hell, I haven't even taken it to the paint booth...and it will probably stay that way. one is street, one is wheeling, and both are clean, with everything set properly and modified in a professional manner. hack jobs are just that, and a complete waste of time. they are the reason I get these trucks so cheap when the improvised hack jobs fail, and the PO gives up, lets it rot, and the vehicle ends up in such bad repair I have no choice but to scrap it. booty fab is the precursor to a junk vehicle, or injured people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 oh jeepco its not getto its hillbilly not all of us are perfict and i have held a key on over and over in big rock gardins i like the button alot easyer in fingers ps we don't all drive sreet trucks :fs1: :fool: it's hillbilly when you break the column to get it done. the switch is not the ghetto part, it's the manner in which it's done. and, IDK if you've noticed, but the truck I've currently got is NOT a street truck. hell, I haven't even taken it to the paint booth...and it will probably stay that way. one is street, one is wheeling, and both are clean, with everything set properly and modified in a professional manner. hack jobs are just that, and a complete waste of time. they are the reason I get these trucks so cheap when the improvised hack jobs fail, and the PO gives up, lets it rot, and the vehicle ends up in such bad repair I have no choice but to scrap it. booty fab is the precursor to a junk vehicle, or injured people. I completely agree with Pat on this one!! There is an old saying: NEVER time to do it right... but there ALWAYS seems to be time to do it all OVER! Think about it, do it right the FIRST TIME and move on. don't judge a book by its cover, There are many many jeep owners that take the time to keep there vehicles clean and in good working order. Dents and wrinckled sheetmetal, do not make for a better driver. Slow as you can fast as you have to and tread lightly are the ways to drive offroad. Forget about drive it like you stole it, thats just plain stupid. I'm not taklin about spinning arround a mud pit, thats fun. I am talking about point and shoot, pedal to the floor, to hell with the consiquences but I'll get to the top, kinda attitude. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I also agree with Jeepco. It's one thing to REPLACE the stock ignition with a toggle switch and push button because you want it that way. It's a very different matter to throw in a booty-fab switch because some idiot wrecked your steering column. You have no idea what broke inside that column, so you now have no idea if/when the steering may decide to lock up on you when driving. Disabling something in a known and controlled manner is different from breaking it. IMHO your friend owes you a steering column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 thanks guys. and yes, eagle, I think his friend does owe him a column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 i stiped the nut trying to do it right spent 2 days working on it decided to get it back on the road it is cold and snowy out the truck will be going to scrap this summer anyway the floors are shot the unirail is shot and i am going to pick up an mj that has good floor and rails mine will be striped cleen for parts and put on other mj the body will go on here for sale for a tugy if it don't sell it will be scraped as for switchs i have bilt derby cars and race cars for most of my life every one has been set up this way it will work for many years like this tumbler is still intact for steering lock but i don't like someone getting on a high horse about the way i fix a tril truck that is barly street leagle here ond not leagle were most of u live like i said on here awhile back some people on here have been getting a bad attitud twards people when i started on here everybody wes nice and suportive now a lot of cocky people talking down to others :fs1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Dude, relax. Take a breath sit down and listen. The comments where made in an effort to HELP you from FURTHER PROBLEMS!!! Pat may have come off a bit harsh, but Some times a different tact is necessary to get someones attention. Pat has been there and done that and now knows and speaks from experience, cobbled together crap causes more problems than it fixes. We ARE nice, that's why we commented and offered help. If I didn't care I would just stand here and laugh and point.. "Look at what this idiot tried to do he he he eh ha aha ha" That's not what happened. Whats happening here is we are growing up. Realizing that everything worth doing is worth doing right... ONCE the first time. It leaves more time for really fun stuff like WHEELING or having a beer with a bud!! Like Eagle told you, cobbling something together with junk left over that's not broken, Just to get that offroad-only jeep back on the street, is FAR different then laying out a starting system that uses a push button start. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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