CODriver Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hey! I've recently acquired this full blue cluster from a 1986 XJ V6! However, I heard there are some compatibility issues. Is there anything important I need to know to get it installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Also, how can I take the needles out the cluster? I'm trying to pull the speedometer out and its loose but the needle is stuck in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Only compatibility issue is the speedo cable. 87-90 used a pinch type clip cable vs the ones 84-86 used. Otherwise it is plug and play. There are needle puller tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Got the needle out Now to roll the odometer... this may take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Looks like that cluster came out of a Jeep with cruise. Did you snag that too? Also just realized that cluster came from an XJ with the 2.8L the tach will never read right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Yeah, I won't use the tach anyways. Just nice to have all the gauges and looks better. I didnt take the cruise control, I can next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Snag it. It is nice to have with the 2.5L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Does the cruise control work with manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Yes. Doesn't matter which trans you have. I have an auto set up in mine and it works just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Oh, I always thought cruise control was only for automatics. Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Nope! That system is all plug and "where the hell does that go?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, eaglescout526 said: Nope! That system is all plug and "where the hell does that go?". Yeah ... a.k.a. "Plug ... and play around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Damn. I really wish I thought of that one. That is so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Not the best photo but I took it apart and cleaned it up. The odometer is exactly 23,000 miles low. If the speedometer cable doesnt work, then I'll just swap in the speedo from my old cluster not the mot then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Aaaaand I have tried that too. The Speedo isn't a direct swap either. If and when you get to removing your old cluster, look at the back of both of them and you will see how much different the mounting screw points are. You’ll need to get a cable for 84-86 as a swap for your cluster. Ill show you the backs of both clusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 84-early 87: 5/6th cluster late 87-90. Original idiot light cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Should I go back to the yard and get the original cable? It's still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Sure. Make sure its in good shape and can be lubed. While your there you can get the cruise control stuff too. Actually...If you snagged the speed sensor you could just get a new speedo cable that is for cruise control and just use that as the cable just threads on to the speed sensor and since you have the adaptor already. I know it sounds confusing and it kinda is. Which ever is easiest for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Wait, is the thing poking out the back the speedo cable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The thing I think you are referring to is where the cable plugs in to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveevryjp1998 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 That part is a short intermediate cable speed sensor for part of a cruise control setup. It plugs in between your speedometer cable and speedometer for the cruise system. It's not necessary if you do not want or have cruise. It can be used or removed. It's easier to have it though and make install/removal easier since it has the extra then for more access and puts less strain on the cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Okay, thanks! Do you know where I can pick up an appropriate cable? The one from the car would be nice but the yard is only open on Saturdays, and I'd like to have this working sooner than that. I won't see my MJ for a month or two after this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveevryjp1998 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, CODriver said: Okay, thanks! Do you know where I can pick up an appropriate cable? The one from the car would be nice but the yard is only open on Saturdays, and I'd like to have this working sooner than that. I won't see my MJ for a month or two after this weekend I'm sure they could be purchased new easily enough. You may try Novak-adapt.com or advance adapters. There is probably many sources. I've never had to buy 1. I've always had 1 from another part rig nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 15 hours ago, CODriver said: Not the best photo but I took it apart and cleaned it up. The odometer is exactly 23,000 miles low. If the speedometer cable doesnt work, then I'll just swap in the speedo from my old cluster not the mot then Why does the speedometer read 20 MPH in this photo but it read zero in your first photo? Answer: Because you pulled the needle off and screwed it up. Why did you pull the needle? YYou DON'T need to pull the needle to "clock" the odometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODriver Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 The needle was moved about when I cleaned it up. After cleaning, it was at 20, then I pulled it, and put it back at 20. I am a newbie when it comes to cars, so as time goes on I'll quit doing stuff the stupid way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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