Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Went in to change out my bearings on a c clip Dana 35 and noticed the retainer pin bolt head was missing. The retainer pin is not coming out so I'm assuming there is some piece of it left in there. Not sure how to proceed. Can I pull the gears out without pulling out the retainer pin? Not sure how to post photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 https://goo.gl/photos/swrxbZMjETS1Bn9J7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Another photo https://goo.gl/photos/TWkgJF8VYrta4wAA8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 If you remove the right side " main cap" for the carrier bearing can you get a clear shot at it and drill it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 ^^ This, remove the cap. The below is what the shaft retainer pin looks like. How deep in the hole is the break? Can you wiggle or turn the shaft at all? If the break is after the thread maybe it'll come out with a small pencil magnet. If broken at the threads, try sticking a small screwdriver in the hole tightly while screwing it out ccw. There should be no pressure on it since the head is snapped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 I'll try taking off the right main cap and see if I can get a better angle at it. Updates coming. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Took off the cap so I could get a better angle and it looks like there is no bolt in there at all. I can shine a light right through. But now my screw extractor busted inside the hole so I guess I'm drilling that out now. Is the bolt hollow? Wouldn't make any sense if it were. But the retainer pin is not coming out so there has to be something in there. Oh the joys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Annnnd now it's raining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Is the bolt hollow? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Is the bolt hollow? Nope. Ya Didn't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Better pic w. the shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Thanks. I've got to put it on hold for now. Going away this weekend and gearing up my Cherokee for the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCARENA Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Are you sure it is not a roll pin? Just have to punch it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm not sure. It has the hole for the bolt but I've never heard of the roll pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Are you sure it is not a roll pin? Just have to punch it out. It actually does look like a roll pin. A lot like a roll pin. Gene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 So I should just be able to hammer it out? I did try knocking it a bit but not with much force. Unless there is a special way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 It's not a roll pin, it's a solid bolt/pin. Common problem with them breaking in c-clip axles. Some PO broke it off then "made due" with the stub hanging in. If you can't get it out like I suggested above get one of THESE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataki Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I know on my 88 dana 35, there are no c-clips. the axles are held in by bearing retainers behind the brakes. mine DOES have a small roll pin where the cross shaft retaining bolt is. on those axles, you unbolt the retainers, and use a slide hammer to pull the axles free. I'm not sure what year the changeover happened, but I know my brakes and axle shafts are different from the 90 model I bought parts for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm not sure what year the changeover happened........... 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataki Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm not sure what year the changeover happened........... 1990 Ahh, okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanmizzen Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 I know on my 88 dana 35, there are no c-clips. the axles are held in by bearing retainers behind the brakes. mine DOES have a small roll pin where the cross shaft retaining bolt is. on those axles, you unbolt the retainers, and use a slide hammer to pull the axles free. I'm not sure what year the changeover happened, but I know my brakes and axle shafts are different from the 90 model I bought parts for. Ya that's what I thought initially. So I took off what I thought to be the retainer plate and it was just a thin metal plate that wasn't attached to anything. So I just assumed it was c clip. Then I noticed on the diff cover it said 35 C. Which I'm assuming means c clip. I may try the pin extractor that was suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Don't assume. The 35C stamping does not mean it's a c-clip axle. The "C" stands for "Custom" meaning it came from the Dana factory not completely assembled. It has nothing to do with whether it has c-clips or not. All Jeep D35 rear ends are Dana 35C's. OP, what year is your truck? How about editing your signature describing what you have. http://comancheclub.com/topic/51707-cc-members-create-a-signature-to-describe-your-mj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCARENA Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's not a roll pin, it's a solid bolt/pin. Common problem with them breaking in c-clip axles. Some PO broke it off then "made due" with the stub hanging in. If you can't get it out like I suggested above get one of THESE. He said he can shine a light thru it, can't be to solid. https://www.ringpinion.com/b2c/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=1326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Well, I looked back to some of the OP's previous posts; he states in one post has an 88. That means a non-c-clip D35 if it's the original. If this is so, the retainer pin is a roll pin. No idea what this means then: "So I took off what I thought to be the retainer plate and it was just a thin metal plate that wasn't attached to anything. So I just assumed it was c clip." Good luck OP........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I agree with Hornbrod OP it would help out a lot if we knew what you were working on, I took a closer look at the pictures and it might just be a bolt in axle D35. Do you see any c clips at the end of the axle shafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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