goin from regulars to led

[Eagle]

trust me eagle i know the difference between driving and fog lights, we all got in an arguement bout it a while back, but all the law enforcers and state inspecters in va are too stupid to know, which makes it great. Now what i have on my bumper right now is driving lights that act as fogs (don't' ask i don't know but they cut like fogs) since spot LEDs are more light driving likes and flood are more wider and not good for on-coming traffic, (this idea is just based on the info gathered so far) would if be a good idea to replace my driving lights on my bumper with spot lights and replace the ones on my roll bar with flood lights? Now i do have a question about a light bar i came across last night, it's got spot lights and flood lights build in, spots are on the ends and flood is in the center, how would that benifet anyone?

I know we had this discussion before, and I remember that you think it's better to break the law than to do it right ... so I suppose my posts here was more for the benefit of people who might prefer to know the difference and do it right.

 

In the opening post to this thread you wrote:

 

so i want to swap out my fog lights for some LEDs for 2 reasons,

 

 

1. they're brighter

 

2. my fog lights are gettin dimmer and dimmer and all my wiring is still good

 

 

among lookin at LED lights i came across flood and spot LED lights, i was wondering what's the difference, what will be good mounted where, i know i wanna replace my fog lights (driving lights) with the same length (5inches) and i'm thinkin about 2 LED pods (or the same lights that replace my driving lights)

You use "fog lights" and "driving lights" interchangeably, and the two are not interchangeable. As for reporting that your driving lights "act as" fog lights -- that's simply impossible. If they act like fog lights, they are fog lights. More likely, what you have is driving lights that you use as fog lights, and since you probably don't drive much in fog you don't understand why they are a bad idea for that purpose.

 

It sounds like what you really want/need are driving lights, so why not just install driving lights and do the installation properly?

[Eagle]

sorry i had that backwards, the led light bar has spot lights in the middle and flood on the ends, but my same question is still there,

 

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Aren't you in Virginia? And isn't Virginia the only state besides Connecticut that does NOT allow forward-facing lights above the OEM headlights? Back when the first generation of Liberty came out, there was a model with a set of four OEM lights on the roof. The requirement in Connecticut was (and is) that those lights must be covered when the vehicle is on a public road. My understanding was that that model wasn't even sold in Virginia because the roof-level lights weren't allowed.

[redwolf624]

 

sorry i had that backwards, the led light bar has spot lights in the middle and flood on the ends, but my same question is still there,

 

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Aren't you in Virginia? And isn't Virginia the only state besides Connecticut that does NOT allow forward-facing lights above the OEM headlights? Back when the first generation of Liberty came out, there was a model with a set of four OEM lights on the roof. The requirement in Connecticut was (and is) that those lights must be covered when the vehicle is on a public road. My understanding was that that model wasn't even sold in Virginia because the roof-level lights weren't allowed.

 

yes that's the law in Virginia, but again, the law enforcement doesn't bother anyone even if their lights are uncovered, however a state inspecter WILL fail you for having them uncovered. And yes i am using driving lights as fog lights, virginia beach doesn't get much fog, although we got thick fog last night and i was able to cut through it with my driving lights (and yes i've had the amber fog lights and the white driving lights used as fog lights, i see no difference honestly). But anyhow how to the question bout the light bar, how would it be beneficial to have spot lights in the middle and floods on the ends? kinda not understanding the combo, i know spots more direct and flood is wider but that's all i'm understanding,

 

Redwolf

[Pete M]

it's possible that the floods are on the outside because then you could rotate them a bit to cast light to the sides while camping.  :dunno:  that's what I would do at least.

[redwolf624]

it's possible that the floods are on the outside because then you could rotate them a bit to cast light to the sides while camping.  :dunno:  that's what I would do at least.

thanks for the answear pete :) but they don't look rotateable but that's just me  :dunno: my major question for em is, are they switched differently, only spot, only flood, both on, that kinda thing, that'd be awesome, all i know is i'm atleast gonna get LEDs for my roll bar, gotta talk to a cop about running spot LEDs for driving lights,

 

Redwolf

[Pete M]

in the end, I don't think it matters much if a light is moved over a foot.  but they have to put them somewhere, right. :D

[88mjblue]

That space was for a short lived option from '84-'85 in high end XJ Wagoneers.

 

 

 

Rob

 

I've seen that before in a Junkyard and thought that was awesome!

Would that work if I swapped out my current clock? Same connector?

 

How on earth does it have the technology to check all those systems/fluid levels? I've never seen a sensor in the rear diff for example, or measuring the break pads for that matter!

Or is it just a timer and every 3,000 miles tells you to change the oil for example and the light comes on.

[gogmorgo]

I saw one at a junkyard with a dana44 that had some kinda wire going to it. The axle was painted orange so I assumed it was swapped in from something with ABS, but this makes as much sense if not more.

[Eagle]

Was the D44 ever offered with ABS? I believe Jeep introduced ABS for the XJ in model year 1989 but I don't know if that extended to the MJ and I don't know if it included the models with the D44 axle. I know in later years for the XJ, ABS was not available with the Chrysler 8.25" axle, only with the D35. (Don't know why.)

 

Also, doesn't ABS require a sensor on each wheel? A wire from the diff housing doesn't sound like ABS.

[krustyballer16]

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Redwolf

That's how all light bars are set up. Spot in center flood on the outside. Spot beam will "blind" people "blind"more than flood will, I think you had that backwards. You can't, well you could but people would bright you a lot, if you drive around with spot beam driving lights. And not a lot of companies of any even make a spot pattern pod.That one light bar is all ran on 1 switch. Good distance in the center, wide on the outside. But don't waste your money on a cheap light bar. An LED will go out in a week or you'll get moisture in it. Cheap ones are junk!

[gogmorgo]

There were a few early abs systems that only had one sensor for the rear axle. The original intent was only keep to the front wheels from locking to maintain steering, so the rears weren't as critical.

This axle was under an early Waggy, so... Sentinel.

[HOrnbrod]

Was the D44 ever offered with ABS? I believe Jeep introduced ABS for the XJ in model year 1989 but I don't know if that extended to the MJ and I don't know if it included the models with the D44 axle. I know in later years for the XJ, ABS was not available with the Chrysler 8.25" axle, only with the D35. (Don't know why.)

 

Also, doesn't ABS require a sensor on each wheel? A wire from the diff housing doesn't sound like ABS.

MJs never had a factory ABS option.