88whitemanche Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hey guys I'm trying to help my buddy out that has a 2000 tj with a rear dana 35...it hasn't blown up yet but he wants to upgrade and I mentioned to him that a chrysler 8.25 is strong enough for his needs(doesn't go offroad) daily driver status with 4" lift and 35s... I know I know...everyone says 8.8 or dana 44... But I was thinking that the liberty axle must just be a plug and play axle I've search long and hard to find if anyone has ever considered swapping a liberty rear axle into one? Is it a direct swap? Considering it has similar brackets as a rear tj axle.... Any help and Info is greatly appreciated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Not a direct swap but neither is anything but a tj 44. Although they both use coil springs that is where it ends. The KJ uses lower arms but upper is a wishbone making it a three link. The advantage to the KJ 8.25 is the factory disc brakes. Any 8.25 is a great upgrade over a D35 and up to the task of 35's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's wider also........don't remember how much wider.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The KJ is rear axle is the same width as MJ/XJ ones and is very close to TJ width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The KJ is rear axle is the same width as MJ/XJ ones and is very close to TJ width. My mother has the Liberty and I measured the rear a couple of years ago when I did the brakes on it. I dismissed it immediately as it was a couple of inches wider. Who knows? maybe I was stoned that day....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjy_26 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'd go with an 8.8 because Artec. https://artecindustries.3dcartstores.com/mobile/TJ-88-Swap-Kit-with-Truss_p_233.html I'm also curious aa to how a Yota rear end would work in a Heep. The 2wd Taco rear ends came in 5x4.5 and have a pretty similar width to our rigs. They're also notoriously strong and have pretty high ground clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The WMS-WMS measurements of a disc-brake TJ D44 & Disc-brake 8.25 are about .5" wider than the drum brake versions of the TJ/MJ/XJ. So for all intents and purposes they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 The WMS-WMS measurements of a disc-brake TJ D44 & Disc-brake 8.25 are about .5" wider than the drum brake versions of the TJ/MJ/XJ. So for all intents and purposes they are the same. I wonder since they have a similar setup with coil buckets control arm and track bar mounts... If they just bolt in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjy_26 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 They don't. The ZJ rears are closer in suspension design than the TJ, and they still don't completely bolt on. The coil buckets are different, though they share control arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The WMS-WMS measurements of a disc-brake TJ D44 & Disc-brake 8.25 are about .5" wider than the drum brake versions of the TJ/MJ/XJ. So for all intents and purposes they are the same. I wonder since they have a similar setup with coil buckets control arm and track bar mounts... If they just bolt in.... Again: The KJ uses a 3-link design with an upper ball joint in a wishbone. They have no more in common with the TJ than any other coil-spring rear axle design out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 ^^^^and, coming from a KJ owner here, the upper tri-link blows. It severely limits articulation and the ball joint craps out on a regular basis (I have to change mine now as a matter of fact). Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayhawker Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I have also been curious about a Tacoma rear axle....if I remember correctly the yota axle is only a 1/2" wider. It would be waaaaay stronger than a Dana 35. If you get a 4x4 rear axle from Tacoma, you have the option of getting the factory E locker as well with 4.10 gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjy_26 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I have also been curious about a Tacoma rear axle....if I remember correctly the yota axle is only a 1/2" wider. It would be waaaaay stronger than a Dana 35. If you get a 4x4 rear axle from Tacoma, you have the option of getting the factory E locker as well with 4.10 gears. 4wd units have a 6 lug pattern, similar to Chevys. You CAN install the E locker center section into a 2wd housing with the 5x4.5 axles. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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