kazam Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Greetings. For the multi-puposes of maintenance situations, I am looking for a camera or a camera-set to help me see what I have to work on and what I can not see directly from where I sit; etc. There is some sort of Shakes-s-Violently--Cascade-like (grows from a tremble to seems like the front axel&wheels will shake (Something) Loose and really damage something --0UT-- Evey time I look under the lower-bezel-trim it looks as nothing is out of place or damaged. The sound is a Hard Shuttering Sound; the whole Cab Vibrates; it feels like the whole front axel-with wheels is going left to right (shaking), yet the Comanche (JEEP) tracks straight -- I do not have full control (maybe) -- because the shutter is so Extreme I tend to pull over before damaging something (including myself), so steering and braking seem intact..(Mostly-- as the yet the Shutter messes up the whole driving situation; I got better at manuevering a vehicle with less-than-safe-control, I Suppose; that said I have had several hundred of those shaking experiences with this not-stock Comanche; that Honor of keeping a Comanche Well was given to me by my brother; passed; I love it, and that is not sarcasm; it's complicated -- complex, I believe . I plan to post pictures to help explain the situation better ( of what Comanche configuration I have). This post is meant to maybe help figure-out what model-number, location available from, and such where a camera (camera-set) might be available and Quality, so that I could make some simple brackets and mount that Camera(-) to record then see the front suspention in action as these Strong Shutter moments occurr. To Refresh: this is a post about equipment; diagnostiuc tools, recommendations: I want to see what the is going on with the Jeep; I should be able to fix some finite problems. Right?. Next I'll post more about the specifics of the 1987 Comanche I have. To mention something else relvant about the Jeep is forthcoming (Specifics); Camera options might help me get better answers toi the questions so that some questions do not have to be asked un-duely. And so forth; thanks. Thanks Very Much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsmith Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I got a headache trying to read your prose. I'm still not sure what you're asking but a gopro camera with wifi will link to most current smartphones so you can view and record remotely. Are you saying you have a front end vibration? At what speed? Have you had your wheels balanced? What size tires are you running? Do you have a lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 interesting thought, but I kinda doubt that most vibrations will be visible to the naked eye, let alone a camera mounted to a shaking jeep. :dunno: if you do it, let us know how well it works. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 OP - from your post, I assume that English is not your native language. Please take no offense. Put in your account info your MJ (yr, engine, transmission, other options and upgrades). Also, include your location. As for a camera, you could get a GoPro sport activity camera. Then you can purchase one of several different mounting brackets. Some mounting brackets are designed for different sports: surfing, skiing, bicycling, etc. I have seen on car shows that use suction cup and a snake post. I am not sure I would use that under a shaking truck. I saw one that is for bike riding that clips around the handle bars. This would be more secure for your purposes. You would need to angle the camera to video tape the axle/wheel/tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Sounds like you have death wobble. Very common in Cherokees, Comanches and 94 and up Dodge trucks. The Cherokee and Comanche use the same front suspension wether 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive. If you google death wobble you'll get a bunch of info on dealing with it. Also a lot of info here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I second the opinion of not really being able to tell what's going on from the video. I've tried getting clean GoPro shots of suspension movement on a racecar (mostly for the purpose of me being a total nerd — there wasn't anything wrong, I just wanted to watch it move under different load conditions) and even with a camera mounted solidly onto the chassis, there was enough vibration in a car that didn't noticeably vibrate on a smooth surface that I couldn't really see much beyond what I could by pushing against the stationary car. What you're describing sounds a lot like the phenomenon known as Death Wobble. I've never experienced it myself, and no one person can put down a single answer as to what exactly happens and what is the be-all end all solution, but one major cause is improper front suspension geometry due to a poorly planned lift. Others have proposed tire imbalance as a trigger, as well as variously worn or damaged components. Look it up, see what you find out. You may not find too many specific Comanche answers, but remember that the front suspension is identical to an XJ Cherokee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daking Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 A few years ago, I mounted a camera to try and capture an issue. Did not work as well as I had hoped. I think a modern go pro with stabilization would do better.. Wheel hop issue. Slow mo launch. When I raced heavily, we would film everything. Review it later. like reaction time, wheel slip / spin, shift points, and much more. Including our competitors. Also had data logging. So, using a camera can help. I'm sure the tech has improved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankicksass Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Didn't read the whole thread. OP says he has death wobble and wants to find it with a camera. That's a new one. Just replace everything. New stock pieces from Rock Auto for all suspension and steering components is around $200. Why bother trying to find the problem and missing it, just do everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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