WT 44s and a NP 208

[CMMagnussen]

I have some WT 44s from my J10 parts truck that I'm thinking about tossing under a comanche, this would save me money on gears,rims and a posi I also have brand new warn lockouts so thats even better. Are there any prefabbed perches that I can weld onto the 44 front so it will match up on a MJ? (and no I'm not interested in a $400 truss kit)

 

 

Also will a NP 208 out of a J-truck bolt to a 2wd 5 speed?

[DirtyComanche]

I have some WT 44s from my J10 parts truck that I'm thinking about tossing under a comanche, this would save me money on gears,rims and a posi I also have brand new warn lockouts so thats even better. Are there any prefabbed perches that I can weld onto the 44 front so it will match up on a MJ? (and no I'm not interested in a $400 truss kit)

 

 

Also will a NP 208 out of a J-truck bolt to a 2wd 5 speed?

 

 

No, and No.

 

 

For the front, if you want to use the factory parallel 4-link/5-link setup you'll either have to shell out the big bucks or make your own brackets. I'd pick up a 2wd housing to take measurements for everything off - or just use a 4wd one. It's just a bit of an undertaking... You COULD cut the brackets off a scrap housing (for the most part) but the factory brackets are crap.

 

 

And a 2wd trans won't mount to any tcase but a divorce style. Which you don't want to get into... And to convert a tcase is a total rebuild.

[CMMagnussen]

Aight ill have my friend make the brackets then, hes converted several broncos to 60s so theres his project for this summer........

 

If I get a 4wd tranny will the 208 bolt to that? I like the strenght of the case and I have one laying around seems like a win win

[87manche]

with a 4wd trans you could bolt the 208 up, you may need an adapter plate, there's also the issue of spline counts and such.

might as well find a donor for botht he trans an case.

There was a company that made a bracket kit that was reasonable, like $200 for the lower/upper trackbar bracket.

maybe it was ruff stuff?

edit:

OK I lied, it's not a whoel kit, but they do have the brackets available for different tube diameters.

My brother used the 8.8 kit, it's all way beefy stuff.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/cat ... s-c-2.html

 

prices seem high, until you realize he sells them in pairs, so $60 for link brackets doesn't seem so bad,.

[DirtyComanche]

with a 4wd trans you could bolt the 208 up, you may need an adapter plate, there's also the issue of spline counts and such.

might as well find a donor for botht he trans an case.

 

 

It's hit or miss. I THINK the NP208 is a 6-stud aluminum tcase, and shouldn't need an adapter plate. Depending what it is out of, the input gear spline might already be correct. If it is a aluminum NP tcase, a NP231 input should be able to be swapped in - most of the NP aluminum stuff is built the same (to save money).

 

 

Hence, the NP231 is actually a pretty strong tcase once you get rid of the skinny mainshaft.

 

 

As you can see, I'm not very framiliar with the NP208.

[Eagle]

Clayton's Offroad in Waterbury, CT, has a bracket kit for installing front axles from a full-size Cherokee/Wagoneer into an XJ or MJ.

[Oizarod115]

NP208 has a higher low-range than a 231 doesnt it?

 

you should be able to find info on all this at novak-adapt.com

 

EDIT: they only list the 207, so i don't know anything about the 208 unless they're similar.

[carnuck]

Same low range, but the 208J is 3 times stronger (or more) than the 207 and double a 231.

 

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This is mine I have for sale with clocking ring and AX-15 for $500 in Seattle

[Oizarod115]

Same low range, but the 208J is 3 times stronger (or more) than the 207 and double a 231.

 

This is mine I have for sale with clocking ring and AX-15 for $500 in Seattle

so is it gear driven then?

 

edit: i hate you for living so far away, most working AX15s cost way more than that already pulled. not to mention with a np208 on it. that saves the cost of SYE if you wanted one.

[carnuck]

It's still chain driven, but it's not a bicycle chain like the smaller cases. The shafts are much bigger inside too. The NP208C 32 spline was built to stand up to Chev big blocks behind the TH400 (there is a lighter duty 27 spline one for behind 700R4 and TH350), NP208DHD for Cummins in Dodges and NP208J to handle AMC 401s. The NP208F is even tougher with a larger input than the others (larger bearing, 31 tooth input, wider/longer chain with bigger shafts and rums) to handle fuel injected 460s and 6.9/7.3L diesels.

Each has their own quirks. The rear slip yoke versions generally suck. (people complain about the light duty Chev one mostly but that's because of the plastic shift forks and short output shaft slip yokes) The Ford one is wider than the others with more LH offset (which was designed to clear C6 and E4OD trans as well as exhaust. Ford frame was widened too @'77)