c0mt3k Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Alrighty! So, i have finaly decided to take the leap and do somthing with my Mj! :D Most of you won't like this but its gonna be slammed strait to the ground. I started today by tearing things apart to get a feel of the damage and repair work i need to do. pic after taking off the fenders and grill assembly. The rust is terrible on my truck. I'm replacing the fenders and doors. as you can see, some pretty bad rust damage. floor boards are gonna be bad :( Well, i have more to post but I'm tired. ill update later today.
feerocknok Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I think that's the rustiest MJ I've ever seen!!! Hope you can fix 'er up! What are you looking at for suspension?
JeepcoMJ Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 That floor... Wow. what floor? i think we found fred flinstone's work truck...
BIGMASS Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Ahh the perfect opritunity to body drop to the door, no floors and no rockers make it an easy decision Are you planning a bag job or static drop only? :popcorn:
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 not sure yet. which do you think would be the best? I have been having mixed thoughts about this. I'm not sure how i want to drop it. do i wanna do a suspension drop? will that get me enough drop that i want? would it be bad to get rid of the suspension completely? lol. gimme some feed back. how should i drop this beast? Edit: oh yeah, i havnt taken pics yet. but the floor is WAY worse then it looks in those.
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 oh yeah, will leaf springs from anything else fit on the stock mounts? if so i could get some from beltech or somthing. Although i kinda wanna go with bags but there a little out of my budget :P
Pete M Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 I recommend retaining your main leaf and build down from there. Explorer leafs should lower it a bit. Can't you just use drop spacers? It's SUA after all.
BIGMASS Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Have also heard that Ranger guys use Manche coils for a lift, so they aught to lower an MJ
jbhill Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 yup they will after you shorten the bumpstop mount.
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 Thats what i thought about the ranger springs. cause i can buy some that offer up to 4" drop in the rear. so, maybe either that or bags if i win the lottery :P
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 Next question. what to do with the front? how should i drop that? is it safe to cut the springs? what are the pros/cons? or can i use lowering springs from another application?
feerocknok Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Next question. what to do with the front? how should i drop that? is it safe to cut the springs? what are the pros/cons? or can i use lowering springs from another application? Pretty certain that he meant you use the ranger front coils in place of your stock coils to lower the front, but you need to modify the bump stops.
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 oh I'm sorry, i was confused. i was talking about using ranger leaf springs. but its good to know that the coils will work with it. so, houw about ranger leaf springs? will they work ot lower the back or should i build a pack using the mj main leaf and jsut using some softer leafs? EDIT: jsut saw petes post. won't blocks hurt the stability? it seems like they wouldnt lower it much either.
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 BTW, what year rangers are we talking? my mj is a 90, does it matter? I'm sorry i ask so many questions i like learning about these things. :)
feerocknok Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 oh I'm sorry, i was confused. i was talking about using ranger leaf springs. but its good to know that the coils will work with it. so, houw about ranger leaf springs? will they work ot lower the back or should i build a pack using the mj main leaf and jsut using some softer leafs? EDIT: jsut saw petes post. won't blocks hurt the stability? it seems like they wouldnt lower it much either. Blocks will lower the vehicle as much as the height of the block. A 2-inch block will lower your truck 2-inches. They can induce axle wrap, but I don't know about stability. For leaf springs, I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on using full-size Cherokee springs. They have less arch than MJ springs with the same dimensions, and I'd assume they are stiffer, since they carry more weight around than an MJ does (but also MJ springs are designed to handle a loaded truck bed).
c0mt3k Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 hmmm, interesting. so what if i use blocks with ladders? or do you even think they are needed? not that I'm gonna torc it much, but its fun to roast em every once and a while :)
Pete M Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 For leaf springs, I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on using full-size Cherokee springs. They have less arch than MJ springs with the same dimensions, and I'd assume they are stiffer, since they carry more weight around than an MJ does (but also MJ springs are designed to handle a loaded truck bed). Only way to know for sure is to try. :D
BIGMASS Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 I've got a Nissan Hardbody with a static drop. 3" blocks in the back and cranked tortions up front. Blocks are a decent way to lower. I havn't experienced any axle wrap. If you go with a 4" block or higher (I wouldn't go higher) get an angled block to correct the pinion angle. There are many people in the mini truck scene that put in 4" blocks and pull a leaf, plus relocate the front hanger. I have seen static droped nissans that needed a step notch in the rear. Remember you are limited in the front by oil pan to axle clearance, so I would drop the front first and go from there
c0mt3k Posted March 14, 2007 Author Posted March 14, 2007 hmm, ok this is kinda a newbie question. but explain a static drop please :P i geuss my only problem right now is how many inches to actualy drop it. like for instance. how much will a 4" block actualy lower the back end of the truck? i should have mentioned this earlier but I'm pretty new to the lowered truck "scene" :P but, its all very interesting to me. so I'm willing to learn all i can.
feerocknok Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 hmm, ok this is kinda a newbie question. but explain a static drop please :P i geuss my only problem right now is how many inches to actualy drop it. like for instance. how much will a 4" block actualy lower the back end of the truck? i should have mentioned this earlier but I'm pretty new to the lowered truck "scene" :P but, its all very interesting to me. so I'm willing to learn all i can. A static drop, I believe, is just a drop that isn't adjustable, so not bags. A 4" block will lower it 4". I'd be a little concerned with dropping the front much, as mentioned with oil pan clearance.
JeepcoMJ Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 if ya wanted to get into it, couldn't you fab. your own oil pan for more clearance?
feerocknok Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 if ya wanted to get into it, couldn't you fab. your own oil pan for more clearance? As long as the oil pick-up tube clears. If I was lowering a Jeep, I'd be quite upset that they used a straight axle.
Tracker Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 Small point: You may pick up some positive camber, (top of the wheels lean outward) as the body drops and the control arms rotate the axle. Offset (adjustable) upper ball joints are a little pricey but will correct this.
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