feerocknok Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 How do I know when their bad? DC suggested awhile back that maybe my axle isn't bent, but my unit bearings are bad. Camber's pretty horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The only test I know is to jack up one side and grab the wheel and tire at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock and try wiggling it back and forth to see if there is any slop in it. If it moves they are shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The unit bearing would have to be virtually unusable before it could affect camber. Remove the tire and rim, grab the brake rotor at the top and bottom, and try to rock it in and out. If it moves, there's too much play in the bearing. I'd be looking at ball joints long before I'd consider the hub/bearing. They usually start growling long before they develop excess slop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The unit bearing would have to be virtually unusable before it could affect camber. Remove the tire and rim, grab the brake rotor at the top and bottom, and try to rock it in and out. If it moves, there's too much play in the bearing. I'd be looking at ball joints long before I'd consider the hub/bearing. They usually start growling long before they develop excess slop. The rotor would move because it isn't bolted down to the hub. Why would you need to pull the tire to check for slop? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 When assembling the truck my dad said he noticed some some, but I never checked. How will the ball joints differ from normal? We'll be examining it this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemsee Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I'd be looking at ball joints long before I'd consider the hub/bearing. They usually start growling long before they develop excess slop. I would have always agreed with this until I bought my 87 with the old style tapered roller bearing hub instead of the ball bearing type. I had a huge amount of play (27 " tire had about 3/4 inch movement 6:00 - 12:00). I had driven it 20 miles to work and thought I had a bad TRE. NEVER growled one bit. But I do agree that if you're having that much of a camber issue to check BJ's really well. After 26 years of wrenching for a living, not much suprises me any more. Especially on Jeeps :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 This is really the only pic I have of the camber right now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemsee Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 WOW, you been jumpin' that thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 WOW, you been jumpin' that thing? PO beat the poop out of it, hence the total rebuild I've been doing. However, I do plan on hitting the jumps pretty hard, so I dunno what I'll do about the axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 :eek: Looks like a Jeepspeed rig with IFS :D ! I'd go over every inch of that front axle....better yet, swap it out (probably cheaper than what you might need to replace on it). Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 After 26 years of wrenching for a living, not much suprises me any more. Especially on Jeeps :D What say you now? :D Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 :eek: Looks like a Jeepspeed rig with IFS :D ! I'd go over every inch of that front axle....better yet, swap it out (probably cheaper than what you might need to replace on it). Jeff I'd like to drop a 44 under there, but just can't deal with the project of that right now, or the $400 price of the bracket kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Junkyard D30 = $100 (or so) but, find out what's all wrong with yours first. Ball joints unit bearings bent knuckles/axletubes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Wow! :clapping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Just jack the damn thing up and grab the tire and see if you can wiggle it all over the place. I've seen a case that looked as bad as that, and it was the unit bearings. Although, dying ball-joints could also contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha Warrior Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 sell it to me :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 One degree offset ball joints are $105 each. I did it yesterday. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 The unit bearing would have to be virtually unusable before it could affect camber. Remove the tire and rim, grab the brake rotor at the top and bottom, and try to rock it in and out. If it moves, there's too much play in the bearing. I'd be looking at ball joints long before I'd consider the hub/bearing. They usually start growling long before they develop excess slop. The rotor would move because it isn't bolted down to the hub. Why would you need to pull the tire to check for slop? Just curious. Well, I confess I completely forgot that most folks aren't as anal as I am about originality and have probably long since discarded the OEM retainer clips that hold the rotors to the hubs. Sorry. Yes, just wiggling the tire will show if there's movement, but with the tire and rim mounted you can't see if the play is in the unit bearing or the ball joints unless you have a helper. With the wheel and tire out of the way, you can see what's moving and how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 The unit bearing would have to be virtually unusable before it could affect camber. Remove the tire and rim, grab the brake rotor at the top and bottom, and try to rock it in and out. If it moves, there's too much play in the bearing. I'd be looking at ball joints long before I'd consider the hub/bearing. They usually start growling long before they develop excess slop. The rotor would move because it isn't bolted down to the hub. Why would you need to pull the tire to check for slop? Just curious. Well, I confess I completely forgot that most folks aren't as anal as I am about originality and have probably long since discarded the OEM retainer clips that hold the rotors to the hubs. Sorry. Yes, just wiggling the tire will show if there's movement, but with the tire and rim mounted you can't see if the play is in the unit bearing or the ball joints unless you have a helper. With the wheel and tire out of the way, you can see what's moving and how much. Makes sense. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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