GirsMJ86 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 ok so i just got some new 31" dayton a/t tires put on my 91. and they turned out to be a tad more aggressive then i thought, which is actually a good thing which i really like. anyways, they rub when i turn the wheel all the way. was just wondering if anyone on here knows what i can do to fix that. i have heard that i can put some washers or something somewhere to prevent the wheels from turning that far. but i am not sure what it is they were talking about since i was not really paying attention when they were talking about this. i also have some 1 3/4" skyjacker spacers that i could add above the coils. which way would be easier/work better? the truck already has a 3" lift on it so i am not sure which to do or if both would work or what. thanks. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhill Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 i would do the spacers and see if it fixes it, if not more lift anways :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Find the "steering stops". If I recall correctly, they are visible from the front and look like a little bolt sticking out and it contacts a flat spot on the axle. Turn the wheel all the way if need be. It'll be the thing that stops everything from moving. Unscrew this bolt and put a washer behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 my 235s on my stock height truck rub on the drivers side sway bar connect at full lock ? is that a normal spot to rub? would the steering stop help that too? (threadjack sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnaevd Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 why would they rub though? i was under the inmpression that 235 was a tire option, actually i know it was de to an old build sheet...so my question is then, what different on the comanches fromt he factory to compensate for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 why would they rub though? i was under the inmpression that 235 was a tire option, actually i know it was de to an old build sheet...so my question is then, what different on the comanches fromt he factory to compensate for this? it could always be that its been fender-bendered or wheeled to hard. i know theres a mud-line halfway up the inside of my door. :roll: and its not from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 i will look in the morning for those "steering stops" and see what that does. also i will try and get some pics up of the truck before and after. looks much better now. sits higher then my dads silverado and very close to our monster k-10 farm truck. i had 235s on before i got the 31"s and they didnt rub. and my 86 had 235s and it didnt rub. then again it might be the rims. my 86 had the steel wagon rims and my 91 has canyons. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLHTAZ Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Are you running stock wheels? If so, you could fix the problem by getting some aftermarket wheels with a shallower back spacing to compensate for the larger tires. If you look at a lot of lift kits, they will tell yo uthat you need a different wheel to run the bigger tires. I think it's BDS that makes a curved lower control arm for them to allow you to run the bigger tires on stock wheels and they won't rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 His wheels are pimpalicious. Spacer the steering or those rims, but don't get rid of em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 His wheels are pimpalicious. Spacer the steering or those rims, but don't get rid of em! truly, if i had those rims i'd be buying wheelspacers before i bought different ones. (my truck has 10-spoke wagon rims.. origional) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Gents: (1) 235/75-15 was not an optional tire size for the Comanche. 225/75-15 was the largest, IIRC. Nonetheless, 235s should clear ... unless the track bar has been replaced with one from the wrong group of years. They are a tiny fraction of an inch different in length, and that can cause rubbing. My '88 MJ with an aftermarket track bar doesn't rub with 235s. My '88 XJ has a '93 track bar in it, and since the replacement it rubs when I turn all the way to one side. Don't recall which way it is, but it basically means the axle is slightly off center. (2) More lift will NOT eliminate the rubbing, because the interference is when the inner shoulder of the tire hits the lower control arm. More lift won't radically alter that relationship. The "fix" is to shim the steering stop, but you do lose turning radius by doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemsee Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 If you are still running stock length control arms, find a set of lower WJ arms from a JY. They are boxed and curve away from the tire and will eliminate this rub. The front bushing needs to be modified by driving it all the way over to one side and then cut to the proper width. Very easy to do. I modified a set for my 93 ZJ and ran them for several years to eliminate rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Gents: (1) 235/75-15 was not an optional tire size for the Comanche. 225/75-15 was the largest, IIRC. Nonetheless, 235s should clear ... unless the track bar has been replaced with one from the wrong group of years. They are a tiny fraction of an inch different in length, and that can cause rubbing. My '88 MJ with an aftermarket track bar doesn't rub with 235s. My '88 XJ has a '93 track bar in it, and since the replacement it rubs when I turn all the way to one side. Don't recall which way it is, but it basically means the axle is slightly off center. (2) More lift will NOT eliminate the rubbing, because the interference is when the inner shoulder of the tire hits the lower control arm. More lift won't radically alter that relationship. The "fix" is to shim the steering stop, but you do lose turning radius by doing that. that totally makes sense... the PO told me when i bought it that he had replaced all the stock steerin and stuff. so i have *new/used* stock steering and trackbar. i bet thats the problem cause my control arms are dirty all over, hence havent been rubbing. but that swaybar link is shiny, and so is the tire in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 that totally makes sense... the PO told me when i bought it that he had replaced all the stock steerin and stuff. so i have *new/used* stock steering and trackbar. i bet thats the problem cause my control arms are dirty all over, hence havent been rubbing. but that swaybar link is shiny, and so is the tire in that spot. Oh, yeah ... I forgot you already have a 3" lift. If it still has the stock track bar, your front axle is off-center about a half inch toward the driver's side. You'll need an adjustable track bar to center up the axle on the chassis before you can really address the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 that totally makes sense... the PO told me when i bought it that he had replaced all the stock steerin and stuff. so i have *new/used* stock steering and trackbar. i bet thats the problem cause my control arms are dirty all over, hence havent been rubbing. but that swaybar link is shiny, and so is the tire in that spot. Oh, yeah ... I forgot you already have a 3" lift. If it still has the stock track bar, your front axle is off-center about a half inch toward the driver's side. You'll need an adjustable track bar to center up the axle on the chassis before you can really address the issue. ...no lift? I'm stock thats girs... just realized that... i've been butting in on his thread. :razz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 ok so i just got some new 31" dayton a/t tires put on my 91. and they turned out to be a tad more aggressive then i thought, which is actually a good thing which i really like. anyways, they rub when i turn the wheel all the way. was just wondering if anyone on here knows what i can do to fix that. i have heard that i can put some washers or something somewhere to prevent the wheels from turning that far. but i am not sure what it is they were talking about since i was not really paying attention when they were talking about this. i also have some 1 3/4" skyjacker spacers that i could add above the coils. which way would be easier/work better? the truck already has a 3" lift on it so i am not sure which to do or if both would work or what. thanks. Alex find out where your tires are rubbing, if its on the lower control arm wj arms curve in and i know a few companys make them rustys being one of them. but adjusting the steering stops may cure your problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted December 25, 2006 Author Share Posted December 25, 2006 i figured out my problem and took care of it by putting longer bolts in on each side to stop it from turning too far. might still add the extra few inches from the spacers and get new control arms and everything in the future. plus by doing it this way instead of getting wheel spacers or something i won't have to worry for when i stick mud tires on the original eliminator rims. and as for the axle being off center, rob fixed that when he lifted it i think. it was rubbing on both sides, but who knows. now all i need with these new tires are some mud flaps or some factory running boards i am going to try and get off a guy down the road from me. he has a mj that just sits in his drive, been sittin there for 10yrs or more. really good shape still but i am not sure if it runs. he is an older guy and if he will sell the truck i will take some pics and post em up. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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