xjrev10 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Stronger one of the two in your opinion. I have not gone too much in depth on it but what about upgrade cost? Axle would be built with a super 88 kit or cromo shafts in the 44. Axle would need to support 35s. Also, 4.56 gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 what locker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Rated from Strongest to weakest; (in my opinion) 1. Super 8.8 2. Super 44 3. Dana 44 4. Ford 8.8 I think c-clip in the factory 8.8 is a huge drawback. But I say get whatever is cheapest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy21669 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 8.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I think c-clip in the factory 8.8 is a huge drawback. based on....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjrev10 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Rated from Strongest to weakest; (in my opinion) 1. Super 8.8 2. Super 44 3. Dana 44 4. Ford 8.8 I think c-clip in the factory 8.8 is a huge drawback. But I say get whatever is cheapest! Exactly what I was looking for. Using a aussie locker probably. I have the option between these an I was leaning towards the Super 8.8. I have a line on both. An XJ44 or stock 8.8 for the same price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I've picked up I don't know how many 8.8 with 4.10s for under $150. hell of a lot cheaper if you scale back the build just a bit. :D I'm just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I think c-clip in the factory 8.8 is a huge drawback. based on....? The fact that if you do break a shaft, the tire falls off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy21669 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Real numbers, not opinions: COT: Continuous output torque rating MOT: Maximum output torque rating Dana 35 rear axle COT: 870 MOT: 3480 Dana 44 rear axle COT: 1100 MOT: 4460 Ford 8.8 28spline COT: 1250 MOT: 4600 Ford 8.8 31spline COT: 1360 MOT: 5100 Dana60 semifloat COT: 1500 MOT: 5500 Yup...8.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I think c-clip in the factory 8.8 is a huge drawback. based on....? The fact that if you do break a shaft, the tire falls off. gotta break one of them suckas first for that to matter. The 8.8 axle shaft track record is pretty darn good. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I think that a disc brake 8.8 would aid in axle retention should a shaft fail where a drum axle would allow the shaft to exit the housing? But if you are using an Explorer 8.8, don't you need to factor in the cost of wheel spacers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 maybe. With tires that big, I was thinking that aftermarket rims are pretty much a given. The backspacing will most certainly be a concern when choosing them. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjrev10 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I think that a disc brake 8.8 would aid in axle retention should a shaft fail where a drum axle would allow the shaft to exit the housing? But if you are using an Explorer 8.8, don't you need to factor in the cost of wheel spacers? not with the super 88 kit. someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flint54 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Real numbers, not opinions: COT: Continuous output torque rating MOT: Maximum output torque rating Dana 35 rear axle COT: 870 MOT: 3480 Dana 44 rear axle COT: 1100 MOT: 4460 Ford 8.8 28spline COT: 1250 MOT: 4600 Ford 8.8 31spline COT: 1360 MOT: 5100 Dana60 semifloat COT: 1500 MOT: 5500 Yup...8.8 RE: "5500", what are the units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy21669 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 torque is measured in FT/LBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91coMANche Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 The 44 is the quintessential JEEP axle...I pondered the 8.8 but then quickly realized that a JEEP should have a DANA axle. 44 or shortened 60 are good rear options. Considering there is a bolt in 44 option I think thats an intelligent and inviting option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 The 44 is the quintessential JEEP axle...I pondered the 8.8 but then quickly realized that a JEEP should have a DANA axle. 44 or shortened 60 are good rear options. Considering there is a bolt in 44 option I think thats an intelligent and inviting option. I wish that that there was great upgrade bolt-in for the front. The Rubi "44" is a LP design with D30 outers. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy21669 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 44 is the quintessential JEEP axle...I pondered the 8.8 but then quickly realized that a JEEP should have a DANA axle. 44 or shortened 60 are good rear options. Considering there is a bolt in 44 option I think thats an intelligent and inviting option. Not knocking the 44, but the question was which is strongest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy21669 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 44 is the quintessential JEEP axle...I pondered the 8.8 but then quickly realized that a JEEP should have a DANA axle. 44 or shortened 60 are good rear options. Considering there is a bolt in 44 option I think thats an intelligent and inviting option. I wish that that there was great upgrade bolt-in for the front. The Rubi "44" is a LP design with D30 outers. :( Dana 30 with a 31 spline locker and using 44 shafts and 44 inner/outer C's, bearings, lockouts. I know a dude who did this, and it came out GREAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91coMANche Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 44 is the quintessential JEEP axle...I pondered the 8.8 but then quickly realized that a JEEP should have a DANA axle. 44 or shortened 60 are good rear options. Considering there is a bolt in 44 option I think thats an intelligent and inviting option. Not knocking the 44, but the question was which is strongest... Good point. I wouldn't say "don't get an 8.8" but I would say "try and find a 44." Sometimes in the "strongest" argument we have to sit back and ask whether we need all that strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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