Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Well after blowing up the motor on the Wartoad (1995 HO XJ), I needed another ride as the Toad was my daily driver. My budget was tight and I looked at a few XJs that didn't quite make the cut. I found this though: 1986 Comanche with a running 2.8L V6. I payed $900. The guy said it had a new clutch (feels good), clutch master cylinder and rear brakes. It needs new front brakes, a new exhaust manifold stud, and I just bought edelbrock headers for it. I'm in the process of a tune-up, building new batt cables for the Optima YT, and installing a 3 inch lift. I have a D44 rear that I planned on putting into the XJ, but now it will get a new home........ BTW, where are the spots that the water comes into the cab from?????? :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Well after blowing up the motor on the Wartoad (1995 HO XJ), I needed another ride as the Toad was my daily driver. My budget was tight and I looked at a few XJs that didn't quite make the cut. I found this though: 1986 Comanche with a running 2.8L V6. I payed $900. The guy said it had a new clutch (feels good), clutch master cylinder and rear brakes. It needs new front brakes, a new exhaust manifold stud, and I just bought edelbrock headers for it. I'm in the process of a tune-up, building new batt cables for the Optima YT, and installing a 3 inch lift. I have a D44 rear that I planned on putting into the XJ, but now it will get a new home........ BTW, where are the spots that the water comes into the cab from?????? :banana: why did you chop the fender so much. are ya planning on runnng massive tiers or somethin? also for waer entering the cab. my experience is around the windshield and doors. i know theres other but i can't think of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 I only have 31's right now, but when I trimmed less on my XJ, I chewed up my tires on the front fenders from flexing. may go with bigger rubber later, but want to try and keep a low COG. I like that look better meself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-600JeepMJ Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 :brows: besides a bath what is next on the long list for the pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 I ordered Edelbrock headers for $174 from their online store. Marked down from $700+. You 2.8L guys might wanna check it out..... 31 x 10.50 Maxxis Buckshots on black d-windows. The tires got 50 miles on them- they came from my XJ. 3 inch RE coils, 2 inch shackle and 1 inch block rear, extended brake lines, new brakes in the front, rear fender cut and fold, gutted interior, flat tan paint, swap in the dana 44 from an 87. That's short term before I deploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 that block is gunna lower the truck 1 ich unless you go soa. and if you do that your gunna have 5 inches of lift. the mj is sua and the spring perches are in different spots than an xj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Shoot- you're right. I just went and looked. Well the three inch up front and two out back shoot make it run level, since pick-ups are usually a little higher in the back for payload, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hate to rain on your parade more, but the lift shackles won't work out well either. MJ shackles are near twice the length of XJ shackles. Stock. And no one makes lift shackles for our trucks. You can use a set of chevy drop shackles off ebay, but with them being so long already, its sketchy to run a HUGE shackle. Your going to have to throw out any XJ thoughts or practices on the rear of this thing. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 I am using generic chevy/dodge/ford shackles from o'reilly's. These are the same shackles I used on my XJ. So what you're saying is I will get no lift from these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 The MJ shackles can be used on an XJ to net about 1.5" of lift. I would then imagine, that the same shackle you used gave 2" on an XJ, would only get about .5" on an MJ. Not worth it in my book. Easiest, and cheapest way to lift an MJ in the rear is a spring over. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Cool thanks for the info. Are there any JY spring packs that guys use for 3 inches of lift on the MJs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 None available. You can bastard pack one together with explorer leaves I believe, but the best route to go is a new spring pack. A member makes packs here, and has a lift company... http://www.hellcreeksuspensions.com Say your from Comanche Club, and you will get a 10 percent discount. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Already found it- looking at the add a leaf. I'll be in touch with him. Thanks for the heads up and all the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 No prob. Rob L. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 The MJ shackles can be used on an XJ to net about 1.5" of lift. I would then imagine, that the same shackle you used gave 2" on an XJ, would only get about .5" on an MJ. Not worth it in my book. Easiest, and cheapest way to lift an MJ in the rear is a spring over. Rob L. MJ shackle on an XJ will net ~ 3/4". IIRC, a XJ 2" lift shackle will lift an MJ about 1", and the comment I got on mine was "HOLY LONG SHACKLE, BATMAN!" Can't forget the fact that the MJ axle does not sit on the center of the spring. More of a 40/60 split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Well it looks like I'll be in touch with Hell Creek tomorrow. Does anyone know if the MJ add a leaf gives 2 or 3 inches of lift?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Tom knows his stuff, ask him, and he will tell you. He has an MJ also, and knows the quirks, so if it says 2" on the site, it will be 2". Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Yeah I'll call over there tomorrow. It doesn't specify for MJs. Unless I'm missing it. Only options are for MJ and Metric Ton that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Metric Ton spring packs would be a good fit also. They have an extra leaf, and add a couple inches... Came stock on 2,205 payload MJ's. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 just as a general rule of thumb, questions from you about your truck should go in the Tech forum (so they and their answers will become part of the database). :thumbsup: The project forum is more for you to show off your truck and for others to ask you questions about it. and for water leaks, any and all areas are suspect. try the babypowder trick. after you pull up the carpet, you can sprinkle baby powder around and the water will make trails through it, showing you the direction to where the leak originated. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Sorry Pete. I just posted here to show the truck from start to eventual finish (that's how I've seen project threads go usually), progress pics and all...... Looks like the thread got a little more into tech than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 it happens. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 Alright so we made some progress. Installed a Gant steering wheel: Got the 3 inch RE coils up front and tires on: We made these batt cables the other day. I forgot to take pics of the old terminals and cables. The cabl;es were bare wire about 1/3 of the way up from the starter...... Ugh. Here they are installed: Also sprayed a bunch of the PO's back 40 from underneath the 'Pig. That should make it easier to get at stuff. I got a hold of Tom at Hell Creek today and ordered an MJ add a leaf that he is gonna arch an extra 2 inches and ship out tomorrow. Great guy and great prices. I'll be back for sure for this truck and for my XJ in the future. Thanks Tom! Also waiting on a set of ceramic coated Edelbrock headers from their online store (part number 68802) found here: http://store.edelbrock.com/jeep-3.aspx These are for the 2.8L V6 and are marked down from $767.95 to $174.87. I'm guessing because no one messes with these wimpy V6 motors too much. My maniolds are shot and I was having a hard time finding replacements I would trust, so I said what the hell. We shall see.......... Going to O'Reilly's tomorrow for a bunch of tune-up stuff. Shouldn't be anything too fancy to report there. Thanks for looking and wish me luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Good luck! Keep in mind that if the 2.8 ever grenades, a 3.4L GM v-6 is a direct bolt in with an accessory swap. Rob L. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer11B Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 LOL- yeah my buddy tells me to go for a 4.3L GM in both of my Jeeps. Not sure what I will swap in when the time comes........ May save enough cash to go crazy with one of them....... :banana: Thanks for the heads up Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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