summerinmaine Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 My daughter has BFG Long Trail ATs on her Cherokee (99 4WD Auto, if it matters) and just last month she transferred to a school on the North Coast of Cali where it gets a LOT more rain than what she's used to having. She's complaining that the tires suck on the wet roads. I have no FHE with them, but if this is true (as opposed to her simply needing to get used to driving in the wet), anyone have any recommendations for a good replacement tire? She won't need serious wheeling capability, but does like to use her Jeep on fire roads and on the sand (beach driving is legal up there) so I'm thinking that she needs something other than a straight highway tire. Now that I think about it, I forgot to ask her if she's in 4WD when she's driving in the rain. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinkrun Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Hi, I bought these tires for my wifes cherokee (www.greendiamond.com) I love them they have several types of tread I bought the truck tire tread (forget what style they call them). Amazing in the rain as well as ice they have carbide in them to BITE and they do. Tons of reviews on the net allot of offroaders use the mud ones from what I have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 4wd has a tendency to transform crappy tires into awesome tires. My guess is she's not shifting. (but remind her to shift back out when it's dry) The long trails are a decent tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you go to tirerack.com you can see ratings for all types of conditions and customer reviews from people whove actually bought and used the tires. And you can compare ratings between brands and prices to see what might be a better deal. Ive used their data to decide on tires for all my vehicles, but have never bought from them. Just a good place to get good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerinmaine Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 Hi, I bought these tires for my wifes cherokee (http://www.greendiamond.com) I love them they have several types of tread I bought the truck tire tread (forget what style they call them). Amazing in the rain as well as ice they have carbide in them to BITE and they do. Tons of reviews on the net allot of offroaders use the mud ones from what I have read. I'm confused. :???: Do you mean you bought BFGs? Your link appears to have nothing to do with tires. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerinmaine Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 4wd has a tendency to transform crappy tires into awesome tires. My guess is she's not shifting. (but remind her to shift back out when it's dry)The long trails are a decent tire. Thanks Pete. I'm going to query her about this. And yes, the rims I bought for the Pro-Comps had Long Trails on them, and they were good tires (but old), though I never used them in the wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerinmaine Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you go to tirerack.com you can see ratings for all types of conditions and customer reviews from people whove actually bought and used the tires. And you can compare ratings between brands and prices to see what might be a better deal. Ive used their data to decide on tires for all my vehicles, but have never bought from them. Just a good place to get good info. Thanks. I've bought a number of sets of tires from Tire Rack, and I like their website. I'll use it to review any recommendations, if I decide to replace the tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotblake Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I bought a set of general grabber AT2s after reading many reviews on tirerack.com. I ordered the tires on a monday and had the tires at my door on wednesday cheaper than what I could get them around my area. I highly recommend tirerack.com. As far as the tires in rain I'm not sure as it is the snowy season here. The tires have deep tread and are very quiet for ATs. I hear very little to no noise in my WJ. Good looking tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Hi, I bought these tires for my wifes cherokee (http://www.greendiamond.com) I love them they have several types of tread I bought the truck tire tread (forget what style they call them). Amazing in the rain as well as ice they have carbide in them to BITE and they do. Tons of reviews on the net allot of offroaders use the mud ones from what I have read. I'm confused as well. This is fromt the site: ABOUT US Green Diamond Resource Company is based in the heart of the Pacific Northwest's wood basket -- from the Olympic foothills in Washington, to Eureka, California. The Douglas fir, western hemlock and redwood forests making up our coastal timberlands are some of the most valuable and productive species in the world. Green Diamond has three primary operations: * California Timberlands Division, Korbel, Calif. * Northwest Timberlands Division, Shelton, Wash. * California Redwood Company, Korbell, Calif. (Formerly Simpson Timber Company) Green Diamond Resource Company is headquartered in Seattle, Wash. We are proud to say that all of Green Diamond's forestlands and our lumber manufacturing facilities have been independently certified as meeting the SFI® Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you go to tirerack.com you can see ratings for all types of conditions and customer reviews from people whove actually bought and used the tires. And you can compare ratings between brands and prices to see what might be a better deal. Ive used their data to decide on tires for all my vehicles, but have never bought from them. Just a good place to get good info. Yup, some great info there. But sometimes you have to be careful with the comments. Tirerack is where I first learned that different sizes of the same tire are not necessarily made equal. There were a lot of negative posts about the tires I got for the Libby. Some research showed that the boo-hoos were from people who had the 17" version (based on the vehicle they said they had), not the 16" version. I've since seen them next to each other and the tread is similar, but not the same. Bigger gaps in the 17s. Same with people who had the car sizes of the ST tire the Libby first came with. Bad road manners, no traction, crappy lifespan, etc. Our version (225/75) worked great in all weather conditions and lasted 60k+ miles. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I just checked out http://www.greendiamondtire.com/ and WOW! Retreads that cost more than new tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotblake Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 This is the website he is refering to i think http://greendiamondtire.com/productswest2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinkrun Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Sorry about the mix up on the web address. :doh: They cost much more on the web site as the shipping is included. I bought mine at a local tire company for $75.00 each 235- 75- r 15 out the door had a friend mount them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtdesigns Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you care about her go with a good set of Michelin HydroEdges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you care about her go with a good set of Michelin HydroEdges. Truly awesome tires! I have a set on the van and they are one of the greatest street tires ever. Too bad the sizes are all car sizes. :shake: I wanted a set for the Libby but no dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deziped Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/light_tr ... okrto3.asp If your driving in rain you want a tire with tread specifically designed to expell water out from under the tread and siping helps also. But since she's going to be "occasionaly" driving on forest service roads which consist of goo mud to gravel to pavement. and sand to boot, I would suggest a tread similiar to that in the link above. It doesn'i have to be a name brand tire either. I live in So Oregon (want-a talk about rain and forest service roads) and have been driving in all those conditions from Crescent City CA to BC since before I was old enuf to get a license. All you need is a tire with a general purpose tread that provides a little bite in mud & sand and will reduce hydro-planing tendacies in rain. Any good all season tire will work also. It just boils down to driving technique and experience anyway. Slow your a-- down when it rains. Hey, anybody know where the dividing line is between N. & S. Calif, I've never been able to figure it out. Maybe San Jose!!!!!!!!!! :huh???: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerinmaine Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you care about her go with a good set of Michelin HydroEdges. Truly awesome tires! I have a set on the van and they are one of the greatest street tires ever. Too bad the sizes are all car sizes. :shake: I wanted a set for the Libby but no dice. Yeah, it's a bit small. 215/70 appear to be the largest size they make for a 15 rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerinmaine Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/light_truck/hankookrto3.asp If your driving in rain you want a tire with tread specifically designed to expell water out from under the tread and siping helps also. But since she's going to be "occasionaly" driving on forest service roads which consist of goo mud to gravel to pavement. and sand to boot, I would suggest a tread similiar to that in the link above. It doesn'i have to be a name brand tire either. I live in So Oregon (want-a talk about rain and forest service roads) and have been driving in all those conditions from Crescent City CA to BC since before I was old enuf to get a license. All you need is a tire with a general purpose tread that provides a little bite in mud & sand and will reduce hydro-planing tendacies in rain. Any good all season tire will work also. It just boils down to driving technique and experience anyway. Slow your a-- down when it rains. Hey, anybody know where the dividing line is between N. & S. Calif, I've never been able to figure it out. Maybe San Jose!!!!!!!!!! :huh???: There's a Les Schwab dealer in her town, and a local shop down here said they are good to deal with. I may just send her there and stay on the phone while she makes her selection. BTW I grew up in the Bay Area, and have always drawn the dividing line at about Santa Barbara. Clearly though, I'm in SoCal now. :waving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brdhntr Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 before spending the bucks on new tires, have her old ones siped. siping can make a big difference to get the extra biting edges in contact. normally that runs $10-15 per tire. i'd give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broythomas Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I live in Seattle, and am originally from Forks, Washington the rainiest place in the continental U.S. I was just there this weekend. I've found that my BFG All-terrains work pretty well, but with the kind of rain we get here and at the redwoods in northern california, you simply have to be careful. Nothing will stick in a torrential downpour especially since Cherokees and comanches are light in the butt. I always have 120lbs. of sandbags in the back of my comanche and I had two cherokees with 4 different types of tires including aquatreds in Forks and always slipped when it really rained. If she has full-time in her jeep tell her to use that. I put the 242 transfer case in my comanche just because of all the rain and hills up here and makes a huge difference. The extra weight right between the wheel wells helps a lot too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerinmaine Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks for all the suggestions. I had a talk with her today, and she's gonna used the 4WD next time it rains to see if there's enough improvement. She also acknowledges that she gets very nervous in the rain, and tightens up. So we talked about how she might gain some experience/confidence and relax a bit, and how that would make her a better driver. Siping is another possibility, and she'll check on the cost locally. I also recommended checking the alignment, and rotating the tires, as she does have some uneven wear in the front. New tires will be the last option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have had good experience with BFG's. My advice would be to upgrade to the BFG AT's. I have worn several sets way down and have never had any probs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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