JeepcoMJ Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 I'm planning on putting an np242 on my comanche, which has an ax5 transmission. output is 21 spline, and the 242 DOES have a 21 spline input. BUT it's a short input shaft, and the ax5 uses the long input shaft. does anyone know a part number for a custom seal that will cover the 1/2" difference. i know there's a spacer out there but I can make one myself for cheaper...I'd rather use longer seal, and don't have the $$$ for the longer input shaft -Pat
mjeff87 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 never heard of a custom seal (but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist...) you sure your AX5 has the recessed output? I played h*ll with mine when I converted it because I bought a used AX5 that had it without knowing, and tried to mate a short input 231 to it (leaked like a seive). Found out the tranny came from a YJ, not an XJ/MJ. Swapped it out with an XJ tranny, still the one that's in there, and all's been good since. I've got another AX5 in the parts pile I pulled from an MJ, and it's a shallow output as well. FWIW, I searched high and low, and could NOT find a 231 21 spline with a long output. Jeff
JeepcoMJ Posted February 24, 2008 Author Posted February 24, 2008 hmm. correy's had a long input shaft on it. maybe i'll check into the output since i have 2 parted out trannies laying here...
Kenosha Warrior Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 a 21 spline NP242 is a RARE animal as 87 was te only year for them. Most were 23 spline.
JeepcoMJ Posted February 24, 2008 Author Posted February 24, 2008 a 21 spline NP242 is a RARE animal as 87 was te only year for them. Most were 23 spline. 87-early 90 is 21 spline input. I will know for sure i can use it once i tear it out of the cherokee.
mjeff87 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 I also have a 21 spline 242 in the same parts pile....it's a short input as well
JeepcoMJ Posted February 24, 2008 Author Posted February 24, 2008 I also have a 21 spline 242 in the same parts pile....it's a short input as well if mine is 23 spline, can we work a trade? I'm pretty hell-bent on putting a np242 into the comanche.
mjeff87 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 well, see what ya got first. I'm running a 2.5 also, but am ruminating about either a 4.0 or a 340 swap in the not-to-distant future. Ye olde 4 popper just isn't cutting it with the 33Xx12.5's.....
HOrnbrod Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 well, see what ya got first. I'm running a 2.5 also, but am ruminating about either a 4.0 or a 340 swap in the not-to-distant future. Ye olde 4 popper just isn't cutting it with the 33Xx12.5's..... 'Bout time ya realized that Jeff-man. Stroker time? :cheers:
mfpdm Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 The 242 I just got a few weeks back is 21 spline. Came out of an 87 XJ. It also has the short input. I'm putting it behind a AW4 though and that is what it came behind in the 87. However, now you have me thinking I'm going to have the same issue with the short shaft. I had to deal with this once already with the TJ when I swapped in a 241OR(short shaft) for the 231(long shaft). What a pain that was. Used a Teraflex seal extender to fix that but it won't work on the AW4 tranny.
JeepcoMJ Posted February 24, 2008 Author Posted February 24, 2008 aw4 uses a short input with 21 spline, you'll be OK. I'm pulling mine off of a 90 aw4.
TNT Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 I know a couple of people who have shortened the trans output shaft without a problem.
JeepcoMJ Posted February 24, 2008 Author Posted February 24, 2008 the problem is the flange is that much further...shortening the output shaft won't work.
mjeff87 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 well, see what ya got first. I'm running a 2.5 also, but am ruminating about either a 4.0 or a 340 swap in the not-to-distant future. Ye olde 4 popper just isn't cutting it with the 33Xx12.5's..... 'Bout time ya realized that Jeff-man. Stroker time? :cheers: Standby for a PM in the next couple days or so Don.....I need to pick your brain :cheers: Jeff
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