tail lights and brake lights inop

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

so i have a previous thread where i got my brake lights fixed because of a wire to the brake light switch and turn signals not working because of a bad flasher. well radio and blower motor weren't working either so after i replaced those fuses they now work great! but my fuse for "park lamp" socket has melted into the block and i no longer have taillights or brake lights, but the turn signals in the rear still work. ive taken off both lights and they look funky so I'm going to try and upload photos for advice to see if this weird wiring job could be the culprit of my melted fuse or not. i have work around for the fuse but there's  no point in doing that yet until i figure out why it melted in the first place. the sockets look real burnt and nasty but i saw a video of a guy with the same thing and no issues. but these ground wires the way they are spliced makes me concerned  

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

weird splices here. 

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

more shots of the sockets

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

and this is the block with the melted fuse

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

also i have a parts truck with spare taillights i was going to use the sockets off of that truck. 

[Pete M]

chance are you're going to need to pull the box to repair.   do you have a manual transmission?

[watchamakalit]

Pete: You can see the boot for the clutch master in one of the pics.

 

Most likely case that Pete is aluding to is that the clutch master cylinder is or has leaked fluid onto the fuse block and "melted" the plastic. Common issue with our trucks. Best fix is a new master cylinder and a fresh fuse block, typically sourced from a xj with auto (No master to leak) trans.

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

So that’s why every fuse that was bad had some kind of corrosion on them??? Radio and blower motor??

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

I have a new master cylinder I’ve been needing to put in because I don’t have brakes until almost to the floor. I just wanted to get my lights working first. So it’s probably not a bad ground but just brake fluid that melted my fuse?

 

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

I just reread your thing. Your said clutch. I gotcha!

[Pete M]

24 minutes ago, watchamakalit said:

Pete: You can see the boot for the clutch master in one of the pics.

 

 

let me introduce you to my cellphone.  lol.  usually I'm using my laptop, but not always. 

 

 

 

[watchamakalit]

25 minutes ago, Pete M said:

 

let me introduce you to my cellphone.  lol.  usually I'm using my laptop, but not always. 

 

 

 

 

 

Understood.  Zooming may not even be enough on that screen. 

[Pete M]

not really, no.   it honestly does anything a big phone does, but I much prefer my laptop/mouse (and the 32" tv that's my second screen) over any phone for using the internet, so the annoyances of the tiny phone are limited mostly to correcting voice-to-text on a teeny keyboard with my giant fingers.  

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

So i can get my taillights back by going ahead and rerouting that fuse? until i can do a whole new block replacement?

[Pete M]

in theory, yes.  but the fuse block should be a high priority at this point.  it's only going to get worse.  

 

be sure to get a block from an automatic XJ so you can be sure it hasn't happened to that replacement block already.  

[Eagle_SX4]

You can get new terminals for the fuse box and crimp them on. Also this thread is shows how to rebuild you fuse block.

 

 

 

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

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1 hour ago, Pete M said:

in theory, yes.  but the fuse block should be a high priority at this point.  it's only going to get worse.  

 

be sure to get a block from an automatic XJ so you can be sure it hasn't happened to that replacement block already.  

ive got a donor truck thats a 4.0 but an automatic 2wd but ill have to look to see if its the same or not. i did rob the t/s flasher out of it but i had some corrosion and was bad. 

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

Update: my clutch stopped working on the way home from work today. So tail lights are the least of my worries now. 🤗

[Pete M]

is it leaking from the master? 

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

No it’s leaking from the bell

housing. That’s the slave cylinder gone bad right??

[Pete M]

is it leaking brake fluid or engine oil from the bellhousing?

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

its hard to tell from the pic but ill have to out my finger on it when i get home to really tell

[thejeepmanwithcrocs]

theres fluid in the clutch master cylinder. and no signs of leaks there. at least not right now lol. but the pedal doesnt have as much pressure as it did. i can go through all the gears while the truck is shutoff but if i start it i can't get it in any gear. tried pumping the pedal too and got nothing. 

[Pete M]

have you bled the system? 

 

usually that drip is engine oil (from the RMS, valve cover, oil filter adapter, etc), so it's important to confirm if yours is brake fluid.