Door Pocket Install - 3rd party door pockets?

[Salvagedcircuit]

I was sifting through youtube, as one does, and I ran across these two videos about Cherokee XJ door pockets.

It seems some folks have used injection molded pockets intended for vintage VW cars and attached them to their XJ door cards. It looks pretty darn OEM looking to me.

 

Part info:

Heritage Parts Centre: AC857004

 

Heritage parts ebay link

 

 

 

Both of these examples show a 97+ that has a plastic door card. I'm thinking of doing something similar, since my door cards were botched by the OP and I don't feel too bad about modifying them. I'm not going to take the lazy bones install method though. I was thinking of getting a pair of these, spray painting them with the SEM honey color spray paint and adhering them to my door card with proper glue and plastic heat stakes, similar to how the OEM jeep hard plastic door pockets were attached. I don't mind the look of them and I think the additional two cup holders would be pretty fantastic.

 

[schardein]

I like the idea.  

I posted a long time ago, my idea of mounting a factory door pocket on the rear cab carpet panel, to make a handy place to store smaller items.  While I didn't actually do it, that could be another option for the pockets you are showing.

I"m not sure about the attaching method you mention?  The factory pockets I am familiar with are held on by screws through the door panel from the back.  They feature a large washer and I'm fairly certain they use a torx bit rather than a Phillips screwdriver, but I could double check that tomorrow.

[Salvagedcircuit]

1 hour ago, schardein said:

I like the idea.  

I posted a long time ago, my idea of mounting a factory door pocket on the rear cab carpet panel, to make a handy place to store smaller items.  While I didn't actually do it, that could be another option for the pockets you are showing.

I"m not sure about the attaching method you mention?  The factory pockets I am familiar with are held on by screws through the door panel from the back.  They feature a large washer and I'm fairly certain they use a torx bit rather than a Phillips screwdriver, but I could double check that tomorrow.

Interesting. Good call!

I goofed. I didn't look close enough at the ebay images I was referencing. The pockets are indeed held in by washers and torx screws! As shown in this listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/125996528246

 

With that in mind a 0-80 tap might be small enough to leave a threaded hole into the heritage part. I have no idea how thick the walled part is though. If it is too thin, a 0-80 might be too big and I'd have to resort to a different fastening method. Some variation of urethane glue might work well since there is a decent sized flange around the perimeter of the pocket.

Plastic heat staking might be another option. It is a very common practice found in many plastic assemblies today. It requires a plastic spru to stick out of the part which is later heated up and pressed in place, usually in a sandwiched like configuration. It provides a very decent fastening method quickly and cheaply. However, I don't think it's going to work here as the part does not have any spru sticking out of it. Even if I created ABS nails from ABS 3D printer filament, then take the head of the ABS nail and melt it into the heritage part, it would likely deform the heritage part and make it look like trash.

 

The obvious fail safe is to just use a nice looking fastener and tighten it from the back side of the door card. Something like tiny elevator bolts.

 

[Pete M]

19 hours ago, Salvagedcircuit said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cupholder!   

[Salvagedcircuit]

Self tapping screws are definitely a no-no for our door cards. I can't imagine they would work well at all in a cardboard / felt backing material.

I don't know the dimensions of the part yet, I'm waiting back from heritage for some technical drawings, so this is purely a fastener brainstorm.

My preliminary Mcmaster searches:

 

Polished Nickel-Plated Steel button one-time press-fit fastener:

https://www.mcmaster.com/99172A128/

 

Torx Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/96754A101/

 

Philips Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/99637A301/

 

Pan-Head Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/94887A129/

 

Allen Key Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/97851A306/

 

I can imagine any of these + a big ol washer on the back would yield some pretty satisfying results.

[Minuit]

31 minutes ago, Salvagedcircuit said:

Self tapping screws are definitely a no-no for our door cards. I can't imagine they would work well at all in a cardboard / felt backing material.

I don't know the dimensions of the part yet, I'm waiting back from heritage for some technical drawings, so this is purely a fastener brainstorm.

My preliminary Mcmaster searches:

 

Polished Nickel-Plated Steel button one-time press-fit fastener:

https://www.mcmaster.com/99172A128/

 

Torx Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/96754A101/

 

Philips Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/99637A301/

 

Pan-Head Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/94887A129/

 

Allen Key Stainless Binding Barrel and Screw:

https://www.mcmaster.com/97851A306/

 

I can imagine any of these + a big ol washer on the back would yield some pretty satisfying results.

Also known by their less PC name... Sex bolts

[Salvagedcircuit]

6 hours ago, Minuit said:

Also known by their less PC name... Sex bolts

Lol. I think I need to start looking up some hermaphroditic fasteners