TPS

[Monte721]

theres 2 different kinds of throttle position sensors, I believe one is for automatics and the other for manual trans although I can't find designations for which type is which. I have a manual trans and the one that was on it only has a female plug with one wire set plugged into it but theres another that just hangs off the side. There is a replacement TPS that has connections for both wire sets. I believe the duel wires were put in all models and the correct TPS for a manual would be the smaller replacement, leaving the extra wires off to the side. Can anyone confirm which one is which?

[Strokermjcomanche]

Top sensor is auto , bottom is manual . 
 

you can use an automatic sensor on a manual truck , the 4 wire plug just won’t get used 

[cruiser54]

Here ya go:

 

CRUISER'S MOSTLY RENIX TIPS

RENIX TPS ADJUSTMENT

OCTOBER 30, 2015 SALAD 198 COMMENTS EDIT

 

Before attempting to adjust your TPS, there are a few things that need to be done.

1.  Be sure the throttle body has been recently cleaned. It’s especially important that the edges of the throttle butterfly are free of any carbon build-up.
2.  With the KEY OFF, and using the positive (red) lead of your ohmmeter, set on the lowest scale, probe the B terminal of the flat 3 wire connector of the TPS. The letters are embossed on the connector itself.
3. Touch the black lead of your meter to the negative battery post. Wiggle the wiring harness where it parallels the valve cover and also over near the MAP sensor on the firewall.

If you see more than 1 ohm of resistance, or fluctuation in your ohms reading, some modifications to the sensor ground harness will be necessary. The harness repair must be performed before proceeding. It is covered in detail in Tip 6.

TPS ADJUSTMENT FOR ENGINE ISSUES

Both Renix manual and automatic transmission equipped XJs and MJs have a flat three-wire connector to the TPS which provides data input to the ECU. The three wires in the connector are clearly embossed with the letters A, B, and C. Wire “A” is positive. Wire “B” is ground. DO NOT UNPLUG THE CONNECTORS!

1. KEY ON, measure voltage from “A” positive to “B” ground by back-probing the connectors. Note the voltage reading–this is your REFERENCE voltage.
2. KEY ON, back-probe the connector at wires “B” and “C”. Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage.
3. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be seventeen percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example: 4.82 volts X .17=.82 volts.
4. Loosen both T-20 Torx screws attaching the TPS to the throttle body and rotate the TPS until you have achieved your desired output voltage.
5. Tighten the screws carefully while watching to see that your output voltage remains where it is supposed to be. If you can’t achieve the correct output voltage, replace the TPS and start over.

Sometimes, after adjusting your TPS the way outlined above, you may experience a high idle upon starting. If that happens, shut the engine off and reconnect your probes to B and C. Start the engine and while watching your meter, turn the TPS clockwise until the idle drops to normal and then rotate it back counterclockwise to your desired output voltage.

TPS ADJUSTMENT FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ISSUES

Renix automatic transmission-equipped XJs and MJs have a TPS with two connectors. There is a flat three-wire connector, same as the manual transmission vehicles have, and it is tested the same as outlined above—FOR ALL ENGINE MANAGEMENT RELATED ISSUES.

However, the automatic TPS also has a square four-wire connector, clearly embossed with the letters A,B,C, and D. It only uses three wires and provides information to the Transmission Control Module. THIS SQUARE FOUR WIRE CONNECTOR IS USED FOR TRANSMISSION/SHIFTING RELATED ISSUES ONLY.

First off, DO NOT UNPLUG THE CONNECTORS!

1. KEY ON, measure voltage between “A” positive and “D” ground by back-probing the connector. Note the voltage. This is your REFERENCE voltage.
2. Back-probe the connector at wires “B” and “D”. Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage.
3. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be eighty-three percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example 4.8 volts X .83=3.98 volts.
4. Adjust the TPS until you have achieved this percentage. If you can’t, replace the TPS and start over.

So, if you have an automatic equipped XJ your TPS has two sides–one side feeds the ECU, and the other side feeds the TCU.

For those with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION–the TPS for the manual transmission XJs is stupid expensive. You can substitute the automatic transmission TPS which is reasonably priced. The square 4 wire connector is just not used.

[Monte721]

Thanks for confirmation and the helpful links, I believe completed most and have it running pretty well just a slight idle annoyance and wanted to see if IAC and TPS made the difference. I realize most ppl are if "it aint broke don't fix" crowd but its 35 years old and looks like have a lot of original parts so I would rather throw more small parts at it while I'm in it and cleaning now and have the old parts as spares than keep fixing small things as I go. 

 

Do you all know what normal idle should be? I suspect around 600-800? mine was turning up to 1500 when warm. 

[cruiser54]

About 700 RPM

[Monte721]

thanks again...dumb question but I take it the first line is 0 then 500? 

[fiatslug87]

“We” think that is correct.

[Monte721]

1 hour ago, fiatslug87 said:

“We” think that is correct.