New Style of Camber Bolts?

[Dzimm]

I ordered some camber bolts for the Suzuki from Rock Auto and got these.. 

 

There is a plastic sleeve instead of the typical integrated cam on the bolt itself.

Has anyone used these before?  I can't find much info online but what I could find was all saying the old style is better.

 

I can't get the plastic sleeve to go into the knuckle, just a hair too big to fit with the bolt.  I'm not sure if there is a trick to using them or they just suck.

[Pete M]

that's a new one by me 

[Chad R]

This is the style we use in the our alignment shop from napa

[Dzimm]

18 hours ago, Chad R said:

This is the style we use in the our alignment shop from napa

Yeah that's what I've always seen before.  The problem I'm running into with this new style is the plastic is like 12.5mm while the hole and bolt is 12mm.  While the plastic is on the bolt it can't collapse enough to fit through the knuckle, it just peels off the bolt at the split.  Really dumb design I think, almost like you have to use an undersized bolt for it to work.

 

I ended up just buying regular grade 10.9 bolts for now.  I'll find some of the regular style camber bolts at some point and just toss these crap ones on the shelf.

[Chad R]

If it’s 12mm you want napa has what you need. 

[Dzimm]

2 hours ago, Chad R said:

If it’s 12mm you want napa has what you need. 

Thanks!  I've got a napa here in town so when it's time I'll swing over there.

[Chad R]

No problem