Oil filter problems

[fiatslug87]

OK, I was changing the oil and filter in my ’88 4.0L today, one would think the easiest thing to do, right? I had two WIX 51626 filters (was going to change the '89 also), both would not thread on, they seemed slightly big, I could feel the threads pass each other. I checked the IDs, ~0.735 for the old Fram PH3985 (I know, I know) and ~0.747 for the two WIX. I then went to NAPA, got a 1626 Gold series (made by WIX) same thing, so I got a cheap STP S3985 from Autozone, same thing too big, WTF?? The old Fram spins back on so nothing is wrong with the mount, my ’89 has a WIX 51626 and my ’90 has the NAPA Gold 1626. I guess its par for 2020. So now I'm in a holding pattern until I get one that fits. Anyone else have issues with oil filters lately?

[jdog]

is it possible that someone swapped to a later oil filter adapter?

from what i see the later one uses a 3/4-16 filter, i had changed it on my cherokee and had the same issue with a loose filter, then realized it requires the 1085 napa filter

[fiatslug87]

Don't the later ones use at torx attachment? This has a hex head and I've had it since 2006 and have never had this problem before, and the Fram PH3985 fits.

[jdog]

that was the same with me, the 3985 would fit, but nothing else would, can't remember if the bolt/torx interchange or not, its been a while.it might be worth a shot to try the other filter style just to see

[fiatslug87]

Thanks, I'll try the 1085 tomorrow. I hope it's as "simple" as that. 

[jdog]

can only hope, will be waiting with a dancing banana if thats the issue

[fiatslug87]

jdog is the MAN! I owe you a few , that was it, still don't understand why the Fram 3985 fits but the STP 3985 does not. Now I need to find a Renix housing so I don't need two different filters.

 

OK, I'm ready for that dancing banana!

[JustEmptyEveryPocket]

[jdog]

I'll give you two of em.

[jdog]

2 hours ago, fiatslug87 said:

don't understand why the Fram 3985 fits but the STP 3985

Better qc, I think the frams are drilled smaller then needed.

[fiatslug87]

And the reason people swap from Renix to HO threads is to use a larger filter???

 

 

[jdog]

one of the reasons, other was i believe was filter availability. or p/o found and performed cruisers tips http://cruiser54.com/?p=257

[cruiser54]

Here's all you need to do:

 

CRUISER'S MOSTLY RENIX TIPS

RENIX OIL FILTER TO SAE FILTER

JANUARY 3, 2016 CRUISER54 9 COMMENTS

Tired of having a poor selection of oil filters for your Renix Jeep? Limited availabilty a pain for you? 20mm threads? We don’t need mumblemeter threads on our oil filters.

Here’s a simple mod that allows you to use the very popular SAE threaded oil filters which are more readily available. The old standard 3/4″ SAE thread.

You can purchase a new oil filter nipple from the dealer for under $10 and never be bothered again. Part number 53007563AB. It’s the one on the left. 

Or, grab one off a 91 and later XJ at the junkyard. Be forewarned though. You need a 7/8 wrench to remove a Renix nipple, but a 15/16 wrench for the later style.

And just in case you need to replace your oil filter adapter o-rings, here’s a handy guide.

Oil Filter Adapter O-Ring Sizes
87-90 Renix Model O-rings

0.799 x 0.103 AS568 size -117
1.296 x 0.139 AS568 size -219
2.484 x 0.139 AS568 size –230

Dealer Part Numbers for Renix. Sold individually:

33002970, 33002971, 33002972

Renix kit from Crown Automotive-33002970K

91-01 HO Model Orings

0.676 x 0.070 AS568 size -017
0.859 x 0.139 AS568 size -212
2.484 x 0.139 AS568 size -230

 

[jdog]

1 hour ago, cruiser54 said:

Here's all you need to do:

 

CRUISER'S MOSTLY RENIX TIPS

RENIX OIL FILTER TO SAE FILTER

JANUARY 3, 2016 CRUISER54 9 COMMENTS

Tired of having a poor selection of oil filters for your Renix Jeep? Limited availabilty a pain for you? 20mm threads? We don’t need mumblemeter threads on our oil filters.

Here’s a simple mod that allows you to use the very popular SAE threaded oil filters which are more readily available. The old standard 3/4″ SAE thread.

You can purchase a new oil filter nipple from the dealer for under $10 and never be bothered again. Part number 53007563AB. It’s the one on the left. 

Or, grab one off a 91 and later XJ at the junkyard. Be forewarned though. You need a 7/8 wrench to remove a Renix nipple, but a 15/16 wrench for the later style.

And just in case you need to replace your oil filter adapter o-rings, here’s a handy guide.

Oil Filter Adapter O-Ring Sizes
87-90 Renix Model O-rings

0.799 x 0.103 AS568 size -117
1.296 x 0.139 AS568 size -219
2.484 x 0.139 AS568 size –230

Dealer Part Numbers for Renix. Sold individually:

33002970, 33002971, 33002972

Renix kit from Crown Automotive-33002970K

91-01 HO Model Orings

0.676 x 0.070 AS568 size -017
0.859 x 0.139 AS568 size -212
2.484 x 0.139 AS568 size -230

 

But he wanted to go the other way

[fiatslug87]

Yes, I have three Renix MJs, two have Renix fittings, the other apparently an HO fitting, I'll just grab a Renix one from the JY. This way I don't need to remember which truck is not year matched, will only need to keep one filter type on hand and I've never had an issue with filter availability for the Renix filters.

[cruiser54]

12 hours ago, jdog said:

But he wanted to go the other way

 

Then read that Tip backwards!!!

[jdog]

19 minutes ago, cruiser54 said:

 

Then read that Tip backwards!!!

lol ok