robbie95 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hey guys, having trouble installing a new axle bearing, the seal went out on me, so I figured I'd replace the bearing too.. Now the bad part is, can't seem to get the new bearing in... I've rented the tools to remove/install it, but I can't seem to get it to go into it... Am I doing something wrong? Idk if it should be this hard.. No idea what kind of rear axle i'm running but if it helps I know I had to take a c clip out to get the axle off.. Edit : I should add that its the rear axle bearing, passenger side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinkrun Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, sinkrun said: Thanks for this, but I'm pretty sure that mine isn't a d44, looks nothing like mine. Plus, the axle bearing wasn't connected to the axle itself, it was inside the "axle pipe??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 This is what I was trying to install : https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/driveworks-wheel-bearing-s-5707/5050138-P?searchTerm=axle+bearing and I think this is what I actually need : https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/national-bearings-5707/15050070-P?searchTerm=axle+bearing Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Type of rear-end... 35...44....8.25....would not matter...the process would be the same.....you need to be more descriptive on why you can't get yours in.....you got the old one out . . . right.... Let's start there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, yxmj said: Type of rear-end... 35...44....8.25....would not matter...the process would be the same.....you need to be more descriptive on why you can't get yours in.....you got the old one out . . . right.... Let's start there yea, got the old one out pretty easily with the slide hammer tool, but when I decide to put this new one in, it won't go in... I've literally broke 2 axle bearings trying to get it to go in.. I have the "specialty" tool from the auto store that you tap with a hammer to get the bearing to go in.. I'm confused as to why it won't go in... should I grease it? am I hitting it wrong? Idk how to be more descriptive, I literally put the bearing in the axle tube, put the tool on it and beat it with a mini sledge and it won't budge.. it just stays in the same position.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, robbie95 said: yea, got the old one out pretty easily with the slide hammer tool, but when I decide to put this new one in, it won't go in... I've literally broke 2 axle bearings trying to get it to go in.. I have the "specialty" tool from the auto store that you tap with a hammer to get the bearing to go in.. I'm confused as to why it won't go in... should I grease it? am I hitting it wrong? Idk how to be more descriptive, I literally put the bearing in the axle tube, put the tool on it and beat it with a mini sledge and it won't budge.. it just stays in the same position.. Post a pic of the axle housing. You MUST know what you have to know what bearing to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 Let me take a pic of the axle tube and tell me if you see anything abnormal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, robbie95 said: Let me take a pic of the axle tube and tell me if you see anything abnormal.. Axle housing FIRST, then the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Ya....it should be snug.....but not break with a sledge snug.....take a pic of your rear diff cover....and a pic of the bearing with the box it came in with the part number visible if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I got 2 guesses....wrong bearing is the easy guess....harder guess...did you get the complete old bearing out of the cup....take a pic of what you removed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 https://i.imgur.com/HiSgUoO.png? 1https://i.imgur.com/592J2xf.png?1 https://i.imgur.com/OIXfL6E.png?1 https://i.imgur.com/exefJ7r.png?2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, yxmj said: I got 2 guesses....wrong bearing is the easy guess....harder guess...did you get the complete old bearing out of the cup....take a pic of what you removed... ya, I think its the wrong bearing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 It looks like you have a Dana 35 axle. 5707 appears to be the correct part number, according to AutoZone. And based on the second photo, the old race appears to be still in the axle. That's the cone-shaped, shiny part that the bearing rollers roll against in the axle. That has to be removed before the new race (which should have come as part of the new bearing) gets pressed in. Did the old part that you removed look exactly like the new assembly? On the C-clip axles, it looks like the bearing and race get pressed into the axle as a unit (different from the older, non-C-clip Dana 35). I'm not sure why your photo looks like the race is still in there, but that's what it looks like to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Eagle said: It looks like you have a Dana 35 axle. 5707 appears to be the correct part number, according to AutoZone. And based on the second photo, the old race appears to be still in the axle. That's the cone-shaped, shiny part that the bearing rollers roll against in the axle. That has to be removed before the new race (which should have come as part of the new bearing) gets pressed in. Did the old part that you removed look exactly like the new assembly? On the C-clip axles, it looks like the bearing and race get pressed into the axle as a unit (different from the older, non-C-clip Dana 35). I'm not sure why your photo looks like the race is still in there, but that's what it looks like to me. I thought the same. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 BTW -- Aren't you going to clean off all that crud from the leaking seal before you put the new bearing into the axle? That backing plate is a mess. I hope you weren't going to leave it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Eagle said: It looks like you have a Dana 35 axle. 5707 appears to be the correct part number, according to AutoZone. And based on the second photo, the old race appears to be still in the axle. That's the cone-shaped, shiny part that the bearing rollers roll against in the axle. That has to be removed before the new race (which should have come as part of the new bearing) gets pressed in. Did the old part that you removed look exactly like the new assembly? On the C-clip axles, it looks like the bearing and race get pressed into the axle as a unit (different from the older, non-C-clip Dana 35). I'm not sure why your photo looks like the race is still in there, but that's what it looks like to me. so by "should have come as part of the new bearing" you mean the bearing and race are 1 piece? not 2 seperate pieces? if not, I can't seem to find a new bearing race on the parts list.. and yes, what I removed looks exactly like the new bearing I have.. nothing seemed to break apart or anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 how would I go about getting that lip out of the axle tube? could I just use a dremel and grind it down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Did you use a slide hammer to start with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jeep Driver said: Did you use a slide hammer to start with? Yes, I did, knew I wasn't gonna get it out any other way.. I just can't figure out what the lip is from... it can't be from a race.. can it? If the bearing removed perfectly fine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Take a small cold chisel and a hammer put the chisel on the seam (lip) at 6'oclock....tap it a few times.....does the seam become more noticeable? If so...smack it hard and bend it up so you can remove it. I do not recall ever seeing a "stepped" 2 level cup.....but I have not seen everything....... Yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Watch the video again...at 1:04...you see him removing the piece that you left in.....try the chisel method above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, yxmj said: Watch the video again...at 1:04...you see him removing the piece that you left in.....try the chisel method above alright, I'll try, I just can't figure out why there is a race whenever I can't buy a replacement from the auto store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 It is on you new bearing.....the old one just separated when you removed it....get that piece out....file or sand down any divots made in the process....clean everything up and the new one should press in easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie95 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, yxmj said: Take a small cold chisel and a hammer put the chisel on the seam (lip) at 6'oclock....tap it a few times.....does the seam become more noticeable? If so...smack it hard and bend it up so you can remove it. I do not recall ever seeing a "stepped" 2 level cup.....but I have not seen everything....... Yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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