Knucklehead97 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I've been reading up on removing the fuse block and installing one from an auto XJ because mine is totalled... But like always I have many questions about it. Like will the wire colors be the same on the new fuse block? The junkyard I go to doesn't have any pre 91 Jeeps. They're all HO, so will the wires still be the same color? I'm guessing that I'm going to be soldering in the new wires instead of pulling the terminals and just putting them in the new block because my terminals seem to be destroyed as well. If I was to just buy the new fuse terminals and crimp them on the wire, is there a special tool for that? Lastly, what is a good, cheap, soldering iron for this job? Never really soldered before so I'm not that sure what would be a good iron... basically just looking for everyones opinions on doing this swap. Wanting to get it done once I get my truck in and out of a shop having some other problems figured out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugalo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 The terminals just crimp on, no special tool. Soldering is without a doubt the strongest and most long lasting way to connect them. buy yourself an AC 115V soldering gun, heats up much faster and puts out more heat. Make sure you get the right kind of solder...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 What type of solder do I need? I already have an ounce of .015" diameter 62/36/2 silver bearing solder. What would be a cheap but half decent quality soldering gun? I was looking at this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002YDMZF4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1433880101&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=soldering+gun&dpPl=1&dpID=417MUx4Lc8L&ref=plSrchbut honestly if there was a cheaper option that was good quality, I would take it. I'm probably going to go the route of splicing and soldering the wires... seems the best option to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Rosin core solder would be the way to go. generally 60/40 rosin core can be found at most car parts and hardware store.Those weller guns are pretty good stuff. I have a propane flame heated soldering iron that I use, but they aren't for everybody. You could always go with a budget cheapie soldering iron from the local hardware store, but be warned that they can be somewhat inconsistent with temps, and don't tend to last very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 What diameter rosin-core should I get? The guy at the parts store told me this was rosin core and that it just didn't say it on the label... great. I'm probably going to go ahead and shoot for a quality product as I do plan to do a lot of wiring in my future. But I doubt I'll ever touch circuit boards so would a gun be better for me than an iron? Sorry for so many questions, never dealt with this stuff before lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 If you aren't going to do be doing circuit boards, then that gun would be perfect. They key to a good soldering iron/gun is the ability to heat up the surfaces quickly to apply the solder as fast as possible without overheating the rest of the wire and it starts to melt the insulation around the unexposed wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Great, I've made my decision then. Now... anyone got an auto tranny fuse block they want to donate? Lol :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here's a question. Anybody know if 84 to 90 fuseboxes are interchangeable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I honestly don't see why they wouldn't be. I've seen cherokees with HO's (around 95's I think) and they have the exact same fuse box from what I can tell. I plan to get one from an auto tranny XJ in the junkyard to swap in, unless someone on here wants to cut me a deal lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'm parting out a few and was wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 How much for a auto tranny fuse block with good terminals and a good bit of wire behind it?:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here's a question. Anybody know if 84 to 90 fuseboxes are interchangeable? The 84-93 fuse blocks are all the same. The terminal configurations are varied though depending on vehicle equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here's a question. Anybody know if 84 to 90 fuseboxes are interchangeable? The 84-93 fuse blocks are all the same. The terminal configurations are varied though depending on vehicle equipment. hmm, in the way that certain terminals will be in different places relying on which package you have? Or just some terminals will exist on some Jeeps while others will not, like say, foglights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Or just some terminals will exist on some Jeeps while others will not, like say, foglights? This. Certain fuses will be blanked out if the equipment is not present on the vehicle by using or not using different terminals on the block. So the best bet is to find a block from a highly optioned out vehicle and use just the fuses you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Or just some terminals will exist on some Jeeps while others will not, like say, foglights? This. Certain fuses will be blanked out if the equipment is not present on the vehicle by using or not using different terminals on the block. So the best bet is to find a block from a highly optioned out vehicle and use just the fuses you need. Like the Laredos I seem to always get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yep. It must have been a bear to design a fuse block and terminals that will work with all the differently configured XJs and MJs. The easy way would have been using a fuse block fully loaded that could be used on anything. But that costs $$.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Do you happen to know if all the wire colors will be the same on both blocks when I get to cutting and splicing? I'm going to do it one at a time, of course. But it would help a little if they were the same color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Not likely. I know the wire colors from an HO and Renix are nowhere near the same. The same is probably for different Renix years too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Figured as much. I mean why would they make it easy for us to replace, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 What diameter rosin-core should I get? The guy at the parts store told me this was rosin core and that it just didn't say it on the label... great. Not great. Rosin-core solder is used for electronics soldering and not generally used for other types of work. If it doesn't say "Rosin-Core" on the label, it isn't rosin-core. Radio Shack is still the source for electronics soldering supplies IMHO (until they fold completely, which could be any day now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 What diameter rosin-core should I get? The guy at the parts store told me this was rosin core and that it just didn't say it on the label... great.Not great. Rosin-core solder is used for electronics soldering and not generally used for other types of work. If it doesn't say "Rosin-Core" on the label, it isn't rosin-core. Radio Shack is still the source for electronics soldering supplies IMHO (until they fold completely, which could be any day now). theres not even a radioshack here anymore. But I got some 60/40 rosin core from Ace today. Getting the gun next chance I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Got a gun, solder, and practiced a bit. Also picked up this perfect Laredo fuse block from Cruiser! I'm guessing that I'm okay just cutting off the right piece and using the fuse block by itself, right? I'm going to clean the connector that is on my truck, just to be safe. And also since this is a Laredo fuse block but my original fuse block is a Pioneer, I'm guessing theres going to be a lot of extra wires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 You're the guinea pig!! Man, that got to you fast!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 You're the guinea pig!! Man, that got to you fast!! that's exactly how I felt! I was expecting it to be here Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 And oh boy, I hate being the guinea pig lol. But once I get the truck in and out of the shop I'll do the fuse block. I hope to find a way to use the extra fuse ports (if there are any) for my aftermarket fog lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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