Jeep Driver Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 My mom is shopping for the new Patriot. I think is looks like a square $#!&box. Those of you who one a new Jeep, Cherokee or Compass or Patriot.....what say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The Pat is OK now that it has the 6 speed Hyundai auto trans in it. The CVT that they used to have made them junk. The manual trans is junk as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 The Pat is OK now that it has the 6 speed Hyundai auto trans in it. The CVT that they used to have made them junk. The manual trans is junk as well. Really? Hyundai????? Who produces the engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyinajeep726 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Really? Hyundai????? Who produces the engines? You're surprised? The XJ's and MJ's behind the 4.0 have Toyota transmissions, essentially. The AW4 is basically the same trans. found in 4 Runners and Supras of that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I am happy with my 4x4 "freedom drive I" '14 Patriot. The default setting is AWD but it can be locked into a 50/50 split like a real transfer case. With all of the electronic gizmos like traction control, stability control, and "brake lock differentials" it the best on-road bad weather vehicle that I have ever owned even when in AWD and not locked. It may not be a 'wheeler but it wasn't meant to be and very few will ever try to use it that way. The six speed corrects the complaints regarding performance, efficiency, longevity, and NVH of the earlier versions. To my knowledge the only domestic transmission ever used in the MJ was the '86 only 904 three speed auto. The AX series manuals and the AW4 were Jap while the BA sticks were French. So much of the renix era stuff was foreign sourced while jeep was a French-controlled company. Such parts sourcing is nothing new. I am much more confident in the Hyundai-sourced autostick 6 speed then that 43-series minivan sourced tranny used in so many jeeps the last 15 years or so. Do not get suckered into the "freedom drive II" package. It is mostly advertising BS and still uses that crappy jap-sourced CVT. Of course Patriots are also available as front wheel drive only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Oh: the 2.4L I4 is the domestically produced engine found in many Chrysler products like the TJ and PT Cruiser. The only differences between the Patriot and Compass are cosmetic. They even carry the same MK model designation The new Cherokee is a Fiat platform shared with the Dart & 200. There have been many niggling complaints especially the programming of the transmission. Frankly Fiat has a world-wide reputation for poor quality and that certainly hasn't changed with its offerings here. Check out the 500's reliability for an example. Square poop box Patriot. Hilarious. It's design was praised, especially by jeepers, for so closely mimicking the XJ on which the MJ was based. The exterior dimensions including height are nearly identical to the XJ. It differs greatly mechanically but visually? Park one of each side by side sometime. The grill is the biggest difference because of the round headlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 The Hyundai trans was an easy pick due to the fact that Chrysler Hyundai Mitsubishi and BMW share the world engine platform. The base engine short block in Chrysler 1.8 2.0 and 2.4 is a shared platform with those other companies with what I assume is a shared bell housing pattern. Which makes the Hyundai trans an easy adaptation. Our Chrysler tech trainers say that Hyundai was quite happy to share their trans and all software with us. I think they even give us access to Hyundai factory tech data though I've never ventured over there myself. So far it seems like a good trans. I just saw the other day that they are being put into Dodge Darts as well. At least until they can put the horrible 9 speed into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjrev10 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 We had a '14 for a couple years. It is what it is. A cheap budget vehicle. Clunky and noisy. Good in the snow and decent mileage. I'd never buy another one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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