2015 Jeep Renegade

[Gnarmanche]

:thumbsup:

[Spectormj]

I wish i could find a scrambler that wasnt a rolling rust bomb

Cause id have that and my mj

that comparison seems spot on

[ride172]

Gnarmanche..... that is seriously the funniest thing I have seen in a while .... thanks for a good laugh

[RochesterMJ]

You ever think our MJ's will demand the kind of prices the Scramblers do?  Usually see them for sale in the mid teens or more, don't think I've ever seen one up for less than $8K.

[Minuit]

You ever think our MJ's will demand the kind of prices the Scramblers do?  Usually see them for sale in the mid teens or more, don't think I've ever seen one up for less than $8K.

 

I doubt an MJ would get that high. They don't have that "charm" that the Scramblers do. Not instantly recognizable.

 

That said, I'd love to know what a well-kept MJ will be worth in 10-15 years - if there's still enough of them and people who know about them around by then.

[dankicksass]

I don't take any real issue with this other than the build location. Jeeps shouldn't be imports.

[Comanche County]

 

 

1. Chrysler called it quits with the Comanche and later the Cherokee killing off what so many people are still bitter about.
2. Our final huzzah from Jeep was created when AMC still owned the name forcing others to think that Chrysler is really to blame for today's "Jeeps".
3. AMC had some fantastic engineers that tried driving the company to success that Chrysler later bought up.
4. Jeep has to conform to modern standards to keep other models available leaving them no choice but to start producing SUVs on car platforms.
5. Car platforms have shown still somewhat capable with today's Jeeps.

 

 

 

 

3. When did AMC engineer anything? The truth is that they limped along producing marginal products by modifying the basic products that were in place when they purchased Jeep from Kaiser. The FSJ line, including the pick-ups, and the universal line remained virtually unchanged beyond mods necessary to adapt existing AMC engines into them. And frankly most years under AMC, including the de facto Renault ownership years, saw the Jeep line become ever more poor in terms of quality and reliability and neither were that high to begin with.

 

#3. Is a very poorly thought out, if thought out at all statement.  To think all the great minds of Hudson, Nash, Studebaker etc were a bunch of morons who couldn't design a car.  No, they were very in tune with the market and at the top of their engineering game.  For example, the 50' Studebaker Champion had more bells and whistles than a 97' XJ.   It's not the engineers fault that the market turned on them...they produced some kickass rides from Jeeps to the Javelin. 

 

AMC cars were and still are $#!& hot.  The XJ that they concocted was a modern marvel, it was the sole reason Chrysler bought AMC,,,for the Jeep brand and specifically the Jeep Cherokee....the XJ was a money flow cash cow for Chrysler.  Dodge used that same basic 4/5 link design that came from the XJ for dodge trucks for the next what 15 years?

 

How in the hell can you say AMC engineers didn't design anything worthwhile.....You don't know basic automotive history...Did you work for AMC during the 60s, 70s, 80s?  I doubt it....

 

Don't knock the hard earned achievements of those people who toiled for an automotive maker who really did make a historical impact on Jeepdom and offroad history.

 

Guess next you'll be bashing SAAB?