front axle questions

[88swampedmj]

iam looking for a front d44 drivers drop of course, i know the waggy 44s are great but i can't seem to find any and there isnt any at my local junkyard, what other front 44s will work. any dodge ford or chevys? if so what years should i look for

[wombat]

ford broncos, and IH scouts i believe

[DirtyComanche]

Both are hard to find.

[88swampedmj]

crud, i guess ill just browse the junkyard to see what i can find

[Rokhound]

iam looking for a front d44 drivers drop of course, i know the waggy 44s are great but i can't seem to find any and there isnt any at my local junkyard, what other front 44s will work. any dodge ford or chevys? if so what years should i look for

 

are you talking about the full size waggy

 

if you go full width won't the 75-79 ford f150 work or am i out there on what your talking about

[DirtyComanche]

The full size waggy uses 1/4ton jeep (MJ) width axles (61 and 58.5 ish and ish).

 

The scout is 58" (IIRC) front.

 

The EB is about 58".

 

 

J-10s and W/T cherokees use 64" axles (ish).

 

 

J-20s and all other fullsize trucks use 67" (ish) axles. Some ford axles onlt track about 66" (front).

 

 

Some 1-ton applications are as wide as 74". Rockwell 2.5s are 80" or something.

 

 

 

So, unless you want to narrow an axle or go to full-width, only the waggy, EB, and scout axles are workable. Or a toyota front (ugh).

[88swampedmj]

dang so i guess ill keep lookin for a waggy front.. thanks for the tip i wouldnt want a wide front regular rear haha

[Rokhound]

Also one thing to keep in mind that the waggy will be low pinion right?? Which is alright if your not going like 12” in the air.And the Scout will be on the other side right??

[88swampedmj]

well i got a hot tip today that there is a full size cherokee at the junkyard not far from my house, so iam gonna go out tommorow and get the axle and leafs and hopefully have those on soon, then 5.13 gears

[DirtyComanche]

Also one thing to keep in mind that the waggy will be low pinion right?? Which is alright if your not going like 12” in the air.And the Scout will be on the other side right??

 

 

 

Yeah, the wag is LP. Ming has a few driveshaft issues because of that. That and I drag the thing on everything. When I pull it tomorrow (or whenever) I think I'll get a picture.

 

 

As to if the scout is passenger side drop or not, I can't remember. It probably is. But something makes me want to say it isn't.

[pingpong]

Scout's are Passenger side drop.. thats why all the CJ owners love them for a cheap swap.

 

Keep in mind cutting down a Axle is a PITA, but the 75-77 ford f150 had weld on Radias mounts, and make a great swap especially if you are going to go chromo shafts. Cut the inner "C" off and make it waggy width. Only donw side to the earlier ones, is that it is a drum setup. So this is where you find a set of chevy flat tops and make it work, cause more then likely you will need a hi-steer setup anyways

[88swampedmj]

oh i was gonna try a cross over steer setup, ill be lookin for flat top knuckles though

[88swampedmj]

i got that front 44 and leafs off the waggy today, it sucked getting it home since my friend drives an xtera or however you spell it.

[Twisty]

what are you going to do about the rear axle? D44 too, or 8.8?

 

what will you be doing about the differet bolt patterns for the wheels?

[pingpong]

If it was me.. I would be doing a isuzu 12 bolt or using the rear axle of said waggy :D

[88swampedmj]

well that waggy didnt have its rear axle, iam gonna stay with the 44 8.8 setup and just redrill the 44 flang to make it 5 lug, and get a spacer for the rear.