Lockrite Pocket Locker Up Front Hp Dana 30 ?'s

[zagscrawler]

Has anyone had any first hand experience  with the lockrite up front in a dana 30 hp? my main concern is does it lock up with very little throttle input or does it require stabing the throttle to engage with say one front tire off the ground.  I'm worried if I start creeping up rocks with a wheel of the ground up front it might not engage until I maybe ride the brakes to load up the axle a bit.  Any one seen these in action with someone that is easy on the gas? 

[Stacks]

I've been running a lockrite no-slip in the front of my TJ for 8-9 years. A lockrite is locked all the time. In the front you will never know it's there, no noise, clicking.  It just does it's job.

[mvusse]

I've been running a lockrite no-slip in the front of my TJ for 8-9 years. A lockrite is locked all the time. In the front you will never know it's there, no noise, clicking.  It just does it's job.

 

You're contradicting yourself here. First you say it's locked all the time, next you say you will never know it's there. Tust me, when you're on pavement trying to make a turn you'd know if if the front was locked.

 

I ran an Aussie (Torw Masters) locker in my front axle for 3 or 4 years. Torq Masters now makes the Aussie in the USA, back when I bought mine they were made for Torq Masters by a company in Australia. The original Australian made one is still available under the name Lokka. Bill Cole, who designed the Aussie Locker and owns Torq Masters was also co-founder of the company that designed the lock-right (Vehicular Technologies, which later became or was bought by Powertrax which in turn was bought by Richmond Gear) and was one of the designers of the lock-right.

 

The way an automatic locker works, both wheels are driven when going in a straight line. When turning with enough traction, the inside wheel becomes the drive wheel and the outside one is allowed to overrun; at no time is a wheel allowed to turn slower than the pinion. The more torque is applied to the pinion gear, the tighter is locks and the harder it is for the outside wheel to overrun the inside. In the front of a Comanche it will increase traction offroad tremendously. When flexed out in the rocks with one wheel hanging in the air, the wheel with traction will allows have full torque available to it.

 

Now in 2wd, when there is no power applied to the pinion, it is invisible.

 

With an automatic locker in the front, do not use 4wd in snow in the winter. The snow will not provide enough traction for the outside wheel to unlock, and steering at road speeds get very interesting in a hurry.

 

Two years after I locked the front axle I also locked the rear. With the little amount of weight on the rear axle I did not notice any improved traction off road, but I hated the road manners of the locked rear axle.

 

I currently run a welded Dana 60 in the front, on the road I can unlock the hubs, but off road I found I now need hydraulic assist. With the Aussie in my D30 I never did as the stock power steering did just fine. My Sterling 10.25 rear axle is unlocked.

[kolton]

On your 60, just leave one hub unlocked when wheeling, then lock it when you need it. Hydro will help no doubt.

 

With the Locrite, both of the previous comments are correct. Yes it will always be working. But when in 2wd you will never know its there. Just no rain or snow use. Be sure to upgrade your axles to the ones with the bigger joints, and fresh unjoints are a good idea as well.

[GHayduke]

I found on my CJ with two lockrights, on road - tire size made a big difference. With larger heavier tires, 33 / 34+ I didn't feel the rear axle fight me anymore. Even with smaller tires it wasn't to bad, only felt occasionally coming through a gradual turn.

[mvusse]

On your 60, just leave one hub unlocked when wheeling, then lock it when you need it. Hydro will help no doubt.

 

With the Locrite, both of the previous comments are correct. Yes it will always be working. But when in 2wd you will never know its there. Just no rain or snow use. Be sure to upgrade your axles to the ones with the bigger joints, and fresh unjoints are a good idea as well.

I did run most of the weekend with one hub unlocked. But getting out to lock it in when needed, climbing back in and repeating again to unlock it gets real old in a hurry.

[zagscrawler]

Appreciate the help fellas.  I happen to run across a guy today when picking up my driveshaft that has run front and rear Locrites for almost ten years now he says and with no probs to speak of..  He also showed me a video of his jeep on two wheels and the pass. side (the side that was off of the ground) were still turning at the same rate as the two digging in.  He was not on the gas much at all it seemed which I liked.  I think this settles it for me.  I'm going to grab a couple after I sort out the trans issues and let it rip.  For the money (which I'm out of now) seems like a no brainer.

[M1A1TankerTom]

I run a lock right in the front of my HP 30 and a Detroit in the rear 44. In two wheel drive it gives me no issues. In four wheel drive you def know it's doing its job. I wheel in the snow every year and it has never killed me like most lead you to believe.

[kolton]

I should have been more clear. Snow is okay, but icy roads or rainy conditions it should not be used. Down here where I'm at, y'all would laugh at what we call snow. But it makes it easier for a guy like me to make a small buck on the weekends :)

 

And MVUSSE, yeah it gets old real quick but it works. It's worse when you forget your unlocked and in about 3' of water trying to go up a ledge... Swimming sucks when it's 40 outside.

[mvusse]

I should have been more clear. Snow is okay, but icy roads or rainy conditions it should not be used. Down here where I'm at, y'all would laugh at what we call snow. But it makes it easier for a guy like me to make a small buck on the weekends :)

 

And MVUSSE, yeah it gets old real quick but it works. It's worse when you forget your unlocked and in about 3' of water trying to go up a ledge... Swimming sucks when it's 40 outside.

 

I had to get the winch out when I was stuck with the unlocked tire tight up against the side of a deep rut. No room for my hand to get to the hub....