JeepComanche89 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Are aftermarket rear slider as bad as some say they are. I need to replace my rear glass, and a aftermarket slider seemed the most logical option. I have a slider in my donor manche, would I be better off taking that out and reusing it, or should I just buy an aftermarket one? Anyone have an expireience with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemi Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If your spare is in good condition, just swap that one in. There is a decent write-up in DIY that will help you a lot. I have a after-market in my shed as a back-up but can't say if the quality is the same as OE. It looks to be of good quality and I got it for $20 from a parts truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'll check out the diy section now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thanks, didn't see that the first time I checked. But what do I do if my gasket isnt in tact? any secret place to buy them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemi Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think you can use windshield rated silicone or urethane sealant. Or...for less than a new window, you can take the OE with you to a auto glass installer and have them install it for you. Most installers have some sort of warranty against leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Yes, its glued in with urethane, but I'm referring to the "gasket" thats actually more of a trim piece. From the treads I just read its hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I did THIS ONE and am happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalob Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I did THIS ONE and am happy with it. Â Me too........ and ditto works/looks great. Had it tinted to limo (dark,dark......) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 So the CLR one does not use the factory gasket/ garnish/ what ever you want to call it, correct? Â I found one on Team cherokee that says it oem style. Anyone know if its the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 To the people who have the CRL one, do you have any pics, or could you just explain how you installed it? I'm just trying to make the best choice, as I only want to do this once, and want it to look as good as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I took the window to the local auto glass shop for installation; took about an hour and a half to do as I wanted it professionally installed. Â The CRL kit comes with a flimsy sticky tape and a handful of screws; the intent is to put the tape on the window to hold it in place and then use the supplied screws to secure the window to the body. This method would lead to air/water leaks as the sticky tape dried out and deteriorated. Â I suggest to anyone who wants to put this window in to take it to a pro auto glass shop. That way the shop can use the heavy black urethane sealant all around the window to prevent leaks as it is pliable before it sets up entirely to get into the contours of the bodywork and the window frame to prevent leaks; it also allows time to fine-tune the way it sits to make sure it is straight. Be advised the old window will have to have its rubber gasket or trim cut out with a knife or razor in order to free the old window and to remove excess gasket/trim. The old gasket/trim will not be reused. Â While the window is out before the new one goes in it is a good time to check for any rust at the seams in the corners of the body window frame. Â Should you go with the CRL route with professional installation, I think you will be rather pleased with it. Be sure to read my Amazon review [link above] for any caveats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalob Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Check my thread... "the building of bucky" for photos. I had it done at a glass shop when all the other glass was changed also so I did not do the install myself ( blasphemous ). I know that additional sealant was used, but it all looks clean and professional and no it does not leak. I will shoot any photos you like after I get the truck back from the paint shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks for responding guys. My dad is friends with a guy who owns a bodyshop, so I was planning on having him help with the install. And also I should have mentioned that all the glass is out of the truck, because I just had it painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 checked your build thread buffalo b, you guys were right the slider looks pretty good. And you have a very nice truck by the way :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterMJ Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I had the CRL 4 pane installed in November. The factory window sits in the opening, the CRL glue-in sits on the opening. I think the CRL looks better, I never liked the factory look of the thick gasket and the thick frame - looks like you're cheated into a small window, but there are drawbacks:  1) the frame sits on or straddles the opening and isn't an exact fit - it'll touch the metal in a couple spots and be gapped up to an 1/8" around the rest of the frame on the outside (not a leak issue and not eye catching to a casual observer).  2) On the inside, I'm seeing about a 3/4" gap to the trim panels. At the right angle I can see the B-plr light leaking through, plan on filling this gap with a black foam door seal when the weather gets warm again.  3) The headliner was designed for the shorter factory window. When the window is open, you can see the edge of the headliner hanging down.  and last - the guy that installed mine used way too much urethane. it squeezed out on the inside and got into the tracks. had to come back a couple days later to cut the junk out. I was pretty ticked off but still think the CRL looks better from the outside. Just try to get it installed right  Can see pics in my photobucket acct http://s1255.beta.photobucket.com/user/SteveBeguin/library/CR%20Laurence%20Rear%20Slider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I had the CRL 4 pane installed in November. The factory window sits in the opening, the CRL glue-in sits on the opening. I think the CRL looks better, I never liked the factory look of the thick gasket and the thick frame - looks like you're cheated into a small window, but there are drawbacks: Â 1) the frame sits on or straddles the opening and isn't an exact fit - it'll touch the metal in a couple spots and be gapped up to an 1/8" around the rest of the frame on the outside (not a leak issue and not eye catching to a casual observer). Â ... Â 3) The headliner was designed for the shorter factory window. When the window is open, you can see the edge of the headliner hanging down. Â I concur on both points. Regarding the headliner, if you have a canopy/topper, no one will be any the wiser to its exposure. Â One final comment, the window comes with a little rectangular CRL sticker in the bottom left corner; it comes off easily with a glass scraper and a little adhesive remover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I did locate an image of the CRL slider immediately after install, below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks for the pics guys, I appreciate all the help. I have to say the slider does look good. I'm not really concerned with the headliner issue, as that can probably be addressed fairly easily. I think I know what your saying about the gap, and how it touches in some spots and not others, but if its not a leak issue, then I'll just have to deal with it. I think I'm gonna choose this option because, from what you guys are saying it sounds pretty good. Ill post when I do make a final decision, but I think I'm going to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 I concur on both points. Regarding the headliner, if you have a canopy/topper, no one will be any the wiser to its exposure. Â One final comment, the window comes with a little rectangular CRL sticker in the bottom left corner; it comes off easily with a glass scraper and a little adhesive remover. Â Yes, I defiantly will remove the sticker. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 What style tint is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 In the image it is the 'solar' tint that comes on window. It appears darker than it really is since my rig is light in color... greater contrast. With that said, it is still darker than it appears on the amazon listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I took the window to the local auto glass shop for installation; took about an hour and a half to do as I wanted it professionally installed. Â The CRL kit comes with a flimsy sticky tape and a handful of screws; the intent is to put the tape on the window to hold it in place and then use the supplied screws to secure the window to the body. This method would lead to air/water leaks as the sticky tape dried out and deteriorated. Â I suggest to anyone who wants to put this window in to take it to a pro auto glass shop. That way the shop can use the heavy black urethane sealant all around the window to prevent leaks as it is pliable before it sets up entirely to get into the contours of the bodywork and the window frame to prevent leaks; it also allows time to fine-tune the way it sits to make sure it is straight. Be advised the old window will have to have its rubber gasket or trim cut out with a knife or razor in order to free the old window and to remove excess gasket/trim. The old gasket/trim will not be reused. Â While the window is out before the new one goes in it is a good time to check for any rust at the seams in the corners of the body window frame. Â Should you go with the CRL route with professional installation, I think you will be rather pleased with it. Be sure to read my Amazon review [link above] for any caveats. Â Just an FYI, the old gasket can be removed from the old window if it is still in place without cutting/destroying it as shown in the DYI rear window replacement thread. The original stock window gasket is one of those parts that is kind of sacrilegious to destroy, they are very hard to find for people that need them. Would be like junking a decent MJ just cause you wanted an MJ trailer, sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Just an FYI, the old gasket can be removed from the old window if it is still in place without cutting/destroying it as shown in the DYI rear window replacement thread. The original stock window gasket is one of those parts that is kind of sacrilegious to destroy, they are very hard to find for people that need them. Would be like junking a decent MJ just cause you wanted an MJ trailer, sort of. I ended up ordering the new rear slider, however I still plan on removing the old one, and keeping the gasket on tact. I will keep it for future use, or sell it if i don't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepComanche89 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Got the slider in today, going to install it tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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