feerocknok Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'm still in the market for some 33s and was hoping to broaden my search to bias plys (spelling? - plies?), but I drive my Comanche 7 days a week. 50% highway (70 mph) 25% city 25% trails Should I avoid bias ply tires with all of my on-road driving? I've heard that they go out of round if they are left to set, but is overnight considered setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 In colder climates they will "flat spot" when left sitting. Not as bad in warmer climates. Wear, longevity of tread is reduced with bias plys. Off road traction is increases as the carcus of the tire is more flexable. Tell us, what different types of terrain your drive, while offroad and we can better suggest a good tire. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 Offroad I avoid all mud, occasionally do climbs in loose dirt or cinders, but spend the majority of time on lava rock and log crawling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Can I suggest 2 sets of tires? Best of both worlds. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 brother ran bias plys probly 90% road... bad idea. wore out BALD in a year flat under an XJ. (33" tire) i wouldn't do it for 75% road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 If I don't drive often, they go out of round. If I do drive often, they'll wear out. I think I'll just keep keeping my eyes open for some Trxus Radial MTs, used or buy 3 or 4 get one free. I'd love 2 sets of tires, but can only kind of afford one. I figure I can get $500 for my five 31x10.5x15 XTerrains and almost afford the Trxus. Thank you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 They only flat spot temporarily. After a couple miles ton the road they are round again. For tread lift your looking at a 25 - 30,000 mile tire on road. I would recomend BFG AT's. IMHO, The best tire for what you need. LONG wearing, 60,000 PLUS excellent road traction, in ALL conditions. VERY good light offroad. EXACTLY what you are describing!!! You don't need new, either!!! I have bought no less than three sets recently USED for very good prices...As a matter of fact, I am going tonight to but another set of 33X10.5X15's AT's for my MJ!!! Good luck, CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 as someone tha ran swampers on the road for a minute: Bias ply tires muswt be monitored diligently for tire pressure. They generate a lot more heat in the tread surface than a radial, and low tire pressure makes it much worse. The sidewalls are so strong on my swampers that ithey can support the truck at 12PSI and look just like they were aired to 30. It's very decieving, and they must be checked regularly. he flat spots in my TSLs were gone in about 5 miles, not terribly bad, just a little annoying. Tread life sucked, but that could be the soft comound in the TSLs, I ran them for about 3K miles on the road, and wore noticeable amounts of tread. That said, get the tires you want, and start looking used. I got my swampers, mounted on rockcrawlers for $450, with 80% of te tread left. Right now I'm looking for some used 31's for road tires. Having two sets of tires is the bomb, I get a nice ride to the trail, unpack the swampers for the weekend and then hit the trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Used tires are the best. I bought my set of almost new 33" trXus with rims for $300. Got my set of half-used 31" MTRs and then the canyons to go with them for under $200. :D Although sometimes I have been known to get lucky, the deals are out there if you're patient and diligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'd definitely like to get something used, I'm just getting impatient. Road wear is really a toss-up for me, because I know I'll change tires far before they wear out, but also, if they are wearing fast, I feel that they will be creating extra drag that my 2.5L can't take. I had the BFG A/Ts on my 3/4 ton GMC and my only complaint was when I ended up in any mud I had to create ridiculous tire spin to keep them clean. They were very quiet though, compared to my XTerrains, Kellys and Wildcats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 You're contemplating running 33s on the road with a 2.5L? Have you upgraded the gears yet? Personally, if I was running a 2.5 with stock gears, I'd definitely keep the daily tires at 31s or smaller. Offroad you can use low range to push the 33s around. Also, I would try to keep my offroad tires light. Super Swampers (including the trXus) are a very heavy tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 You're contemplating running 33s on the road with a 2.5L? Have you upgraded the gears yet? Personally, if I was running a 2.5 with only 4.10s, I'd definitely keep the daily tires at 31s or smaller. Offroad you can use low range to push the 33s around. Also, I would try to keep my offroad tires light. Super Swampers (including the trXus) are a very heavy tire. I'm putting 4.56s in this week, and I'd do 4.88s, but I'm pulling Cherokee axles for $200 for the set. I'm not sure what other tire I'd go for besides the Trxus so much. I might have to open my old thread up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'd get a BFG MT. Good road manners, good offroad manners and it's not a heavy tire. Plus you can get them in a 33x10.5 which would help reduce rolling resistance and wind resistance, as well as fit better in the wheelwell offroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'd get a BFG MT. Good road manners, good offroad manners and it's not a heavy tire. Plus you can get them in a 33x10.5 which would help reduce rolling resistance and wind resistance, as well as fit better in the wheelwell offroad. 10.5s sound like a good idea. I'll start looking into them a bit. Thank ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I just got my claws with 3,000 miles on them for 500 and that was mounted and balanced so what is that like 110 a tire I didn't think that was to bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I would go with the trxus MT's They are a great tire. Thats just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'd get a BFG MT. Good road manners, good offroad manners and it's not a heavy tire. Plus you can get them in a 33x10.5 which would help reduce rolling resistance and wind resistance, as well as fit better in the wheelwell offroad. 10.5s sound like a good idea. I'll start looking into them a bit. Thank ya! pizza cutters are awesome, my swampers are 34x9.5, I love the skinny tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Offroad I avoid all mud, occasionally do climbs in loose dirt or cinders, but spend the majority of time on lava rock and log crawling.I had the BFG A/Ts on my 3/4 ton GMC and my only complaint was when I ended up in any mud I had to create ridiculous tire spin to keep them clean. They were very quiet though, compared to my XTerrains, Kellys and Wildcats. My suggestion of the BFG AT's was because of your first post on how you avoid mud. There only down fall is mud..... :roll: If you wanna play in the Mud, I agree with Pete, get the BFG MT's!! Trxus MT's are a very good TRAIL tire. But know they wear faster than the BFG and down right SUCK once the get to about 2/3 worn on the street. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 Offroad I avoid all mud, occasionally do climbs in loose dirt or cinders, but spend the majority of time on lava rock and log crawling.I had the BFG A/Ts on my 3/4 ton GMC and my only complaint was when I ended up in any mud I had to create ridiculous tire spin to keep them clean. They were very quiet though, compared to my XTerrains, Kellys and Wildcats. My suggestion of the BFG AT's was because of your first post on how you avoid mud. There only down fall is mud..... :roll: If you wanna play in the Mud, I agree with Pete, get the BFG MT's!! Trxus MT's are a very good TRAIL tire. But know they wear faster than the BFG and down right SUCK once the get to about 2/3 worn on the street. CW You heard the right notes, I despise mud, but when it shows up on the trail, I'll end up crawling through it to not get it all over. XTerrains turned out to not sidehill in mud at all and left me in slippery situation today, so I'm hunting a lil harder, since those things turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 definatley the bfg a/t are great tires. i have 33x10.5 on my xj. i do some trail riding and a lot of mud, they handle great, they don't clean that well, but i never got stuck yet. and aired down they work just fine. i run mine at 20psi off road and it handles great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Okay... BFG A/Ts are good, barring they're an A/T. If you hate mud and want a tire that's actually good off-road... Get some MT/Rs. They SUCK in mud, but are awesome at everything else. And are tough. They probably make some noise on the road... BFG tires are really weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 Since I do avoid mud so much, the BFGs are appealing, but the lava rocks are what push me away. The rocks are sidewall killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yeah, BFG tires don't like that. You will rip them left right and centre. A friend ripped 5 BFG M/Ts in two days! Thankfully they were all used tires. Other than the crawlers I guess. IIRC they actually put a sidewall on them that's tough enough to be useful. They'd actually probably do what you want - other than I think they're still only avaliable in a 35 and a 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 well look at pitbull tires, they make some really aggressive tires. there all terrain is really a decent mud terrain tire. and they have a mud tire too, and rock tires. i don't know anyone with them, but they say they ride decent on the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Dude no offence, but this question and answer thing only works if you provide all your conserns and conditions. :eek: :D I will agree with Dirty, the MT/R's have MUCH better side walls. They won't wear as long and should be rotated RELIGIOUSLY. But are much better suited to handle the tough sidewall challanges of what ever you may find. These too are only a All Terrain tread. Albeit a agressive one. MT/R stands for Max Traction Reinforced (sidewall) CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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