Zenobian_84 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Just a few questions; these have been bothering the heck out of me as-of-late. 1. Are the 2.5 fan shrouds the same as a 4.0 fan shroud? Mine's busted almost in half and since there are hardly any 2.5s in the P&Ps around here, I was wondering what I could use for a suitable "slap it on and be happy" replacement. If they aren't, does anyone have any recommendations for a decently-priced replacement? 2. I know the difference in a D35 and a Chryco 8.25; but were the 35s still the default rear-axle until '01? Aside from the visual look in the yards, is there a stamping I could look at to tell it's a 8.25 (if the tag is missing on the diff cover) in case I somehow take it for a 35? If so, where is said stamping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 8.25 of the left, D35 on the right. Yes, the D35 was still used through 01. I believe it was only on the ABS model XJs. Most newer XJs I've seen have the 8.25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 The 2.5 shrouds are the only ones you can use. The 2.8 uses the same radiator, but the shroud is different as one of them is offset compared to the other, but I can't remember which. One thing you could do is get rid of the engine driven fan, and install an electric one with a fan controller. This would free up a few extra ponies as well. Another option would be to repair your old one with some two part epoxy. Ive used this on mine and it has held well for a few years now. As for the axles, there is a picture guide somewhere here on this site that will give you a positve identification for whats what. They each have their own look in the center section. There are also ways described to get a close estimate of what that axles gearing is. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Fan shrouds are nowhere near alike as the radiator is completely different. The 8.25" has been used from at least 1994 and probably earlier. I have no clue what decided if a Cherokee got a D35 or an 8.25" because I have even seen 4 cylinder ones with the 8.25". On the older ones the D35 was the default axle with an optional D44 with the towing package or ordered separately as a "heavy duty rear axle". Or with the MT package on Comanches. ABS may possibly have been the deciding factor, I never paid attention to that detail in Pull-a-Part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenobian_84 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 The 2.5 shrouds are the only ones you can use. The 2.8 uses the same radiator, but the shroud is different as one of them is offset compared to the other, but I can't remember which. One thing you could do is get rid of the engine driven fan, and install an electric one with a fan controller. This would free up a few extra ponies as well. Another option would be to repair your old one with some two part epoxy. Ive used this on mine and it has held well for a few years now. Guess I'm stuck waiting until a 2.5 comes my way. You can see why in this old picture; the top arch of the shroud is completely gone, and has been since I've bought the truck. Guess the PO figured it "got in the way" so he jaggedly cut it off. :fs1: I'd get rid of the engine driven fan, but I don't really trust Electric ones; as I'd have to run wiring, and relays and etc. If that fan ever took a proverbial dump, I'd really be up $#!& creek. I also want to keep the engine moderately close to stock as I can. Besides, as of now, the truck runs at a consistent temperature, and hardly ever goes past 210, even in the hottest time of the day stuck in traffic. Also, Genovast, thanks for the picture. I can clearly see the difference now. For whatever reason, the last picture I saw of the 8.25 wasn't very good; and it seemed to be more "rounded" like the 35 instead of "oblongish" like your picture shows. Appreciate it :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slifter Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 That shroud looks like mine, I was stupidly kneeling on it while replacing the head. Next time the hoods coming off so I can stand over the block while placing the head. Major cursing ensued as I knew it was a hard to find part in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 For the shroud (p/n 53000015), call Mike at the below link. He has a NOS one for $20.50 + shipping. I don't think there are any aftermarket ones that will fit. http://www.lambertauto.net/parts/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Once Chrysler started using the 8-1/4 axle in the XJs, for some reason the Chrysler 8-1/4 was the default for vehicles without ABS, and the Dana 35 was used with ABS. And within the 8-1/4 series, they increased the shaft size in 1997 (and newer). The 97+ Chrysler axles would be pretty decent axles if they had used the 10" x 2-1/4" rear brakes from the D44, but they used crappy Mopar 9" drums. I hate those brakes. Compared to the older AMC brakes, the 9" drums are a royal PITA to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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