msd ignition

[codymanche]

so just trying to get some more horsepower and stuff i was thinking about putting in a msd system in. looking for opinions

[jimoshel]

With the old points system the MSD was very useful. With the advent of electronic ignitions, which the MSD was, it really doesn't help all that much.

[ratrapp]

those boxes are the biggest piles of crap.they'll let you down at the worst time.there quality control has sucked lately.about 20 years ago they were great,no so much.

[dasbulliwagen]

A good working OEM ignition will do just as good, though you might be able to add a hotter coil , but you probably won't notice any difference.

[codymanche]

does anyone know where i can get a quote or a whole package deal from msd for my Comanche. i looked at their main site all they had was the box and wires. i called summit and all they had was the box for 160-165 and the coil for 35. id like to get the whole thing. box, cap, coil, wires the whole thing. just trying to find a kit for it

[WBKrazy]

i had a 6a box on my old bronco w/a 302... comparing apples and oranges, i know, but about the only difference i noted was that it didn't take as long to crank over as it used to..

[codymanche]

so thats all u noticed with it

[dasbulliwagen]

Nobody makes a kit because it is compltely unnecessary. The stock system does exactly the same thing, and is set up the same as an MSD system, as all modern engines are. You would only benefit from the MSD system if you were changing from a points system, or were building a buggy or truck from the ground up, and needed an easilly adaptable stand alone high energy ignition, for use with a carburator, or other stand alone fuel injection system. Just make sure your original parts are good, and thats all you need to be equivalent to the MSD system.

[comanche12]

well yea they r worthless but they r design to fire 3 time per cycle which 3x spark per cylinder

so you will burn cleaner= better fuel economy and performance.

 

I have MSD box for sell- $100 OBO. pm me if your interesting

 

also i remeber some where info that i hear fords oem tend have 2time fire per cycle

 

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oem tend look like this-one time per cycle

MSD 3time per cycle

[codymanche]

I'm looking to put one in i just kinda need to know what everything does and what i need for the comanche

[jeepcoma]

I got a cheap used 6A lying around and put it in. I was pleasantly surprised by the results. After cap/rotor/coil/wires/plugs I was still having trouble restarting in the winter, if it was in cold-idle mode just after startup and the engine stalled it would basically be flooded and impossible to start. I threw the 6A on and noticed it starts quicker, idles smoother, and it's more resistant to stalling in the first place; if I do bog it out, it restarts more easily. Maybe it's helped my economy (I added a 6AL to my Camaro LT1 for the superior spark-dropping rev limiter; guys claim 1-2 mpg increase on the highway with these) but I haven't measured.

 

Would I buy new? No. If I were to buy new, would I get MSD? No. I think the alternatives are pretty impressive at a much cheaper cost, the Summit brand and HiFyre etc digital options look nice and don't have the MSD "pills" to replace. I think you pay a premium just for the name (as far as ignition boxes go; they make other great stuff like the optispark distributor for LT1s that you do get a premium product for)

 

That being said, I'd sell my 6A for cheap if you're interested! You have to splice into the ignition wiring harness and it's a bit tricky since there isn't much spare room or wiring. All in all though it's less than an hour job, unless you screw something up.

[codymanche]

humm intested.. yea! but did u get more horse out of her too

[comanche12]

i still have my msd ignition sit in garage shelve, i can sell it to you for cheap if you want. interesting? pm me

[codymanche]

do u have a pic of where it was located and wired in at?

[comanche12]

do u have a pic of where it was located and wired in at?

don't think so but its was located upside down on coolant bottle bracket. its nice area to put msd in since its far from ground and front end.

[codymanche]

i don't know if thats a good spot with the reservoir being there

[comanche12]

i don't know if thats a good spot with the reservoir being there

why not? its water proof i think? haha its should be water proof

[codymanche]

id hope so too lol but like i said iuno what exactly i gotta do to install it electrically

[comanche12]

id hope so too lol but like i said iuno what exactly i gotta do to install it electrically

hm well its up to u. i can sell it for 100 OBO.

[codymanche]

but thats all u got is the box

[comanche12]

but thats all u got is the box

ok 50 bucks? brand new is like 200 dollars for box its self. I'm don't mind to sell you for 50 bucks

[codymanche]

u got me however i won't be able to do anything till 15th when i get paid

[comanche12]

u got me however i won't be able to do anything till 15th when i get paid

Good and I'll pm you for more info tomorrow. Goodnight everyone

[dasbulliwagen]

Youre not going to see any horsepower out of this..... smoother running maybe, but an ignition system alone will not get you more power. If it did, eveyone would be using it already.

[codymanche]

What about an ignition coil my dad says they make the for the jeep or they should does any know about this