DJM/78 Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 I am replacing the timing chain on a 91" 2.5 motor with the tensioner . Since its been making a loud noise I thought was coming from the cylinder head . I figured I would go ahead and just purchase an entire gear and chain set , with the tensioner from NAPA . My question is why was there a difference in the 92" 2.5 being that it has no tensioner , can I use the new style gear set without the tensioner or do I need the old style gear set ? I don't know much about the 2.5 but in most of the things I've been reading I don't see very much on either motor . Are there any other things I should replace wile I'm in there ? Water pump , timing cover gasket ? Thanks for the help !
DJM/78 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Posted June 23, 2010 92' has a tensioner... See now the parts store and my Hayne's manual said that there is a tensioner on the 91" but not the 92" different part# from NAPA as well , In the book its installed different as well from the 92" . Or is it all the same thing , I can not get any info on the difference on timing chains from 91-92 on the 2.5 L . At least in the book there is no tensioner ?
jimoshel Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 When in doubt, just find a local MJ nut,er, enthusiast and just give the truck to me, er, him. Let him worry about it. Without knowing for sure or having a definite reason to change, I'd just stay with the current set up.
DJM/78 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Posted June 23, 2010 When in doubt, just find a local MJ nut,er, enthusiast and just give the truck to me, er, him. Let him worry about it. Without knowing for sure or having a definite reason to change, I'd just stay with the current set up. Thanks Jim and Geonovast for the input , I think this dammed Hayne's manual has me confused , which isn't hard for me considering my ADD .... :drool: Jim , your not getting another one that easy ( this time ) ... :clapping:
jimoshel Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Shucks. It was worth a try. :D Haynes, and Chilton are OK for a general reference but they're just not good for finer details.
Geonovast Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Well, I've never had a 92, but I did have a 93 2.5, and that DOES have a tensioner. Whoever wrote the book probably go mixed information, because the 4.0 does not have a tensioner.
kastein Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Haynes info ranges from wildly inaccurate to a brilliant work of fiction :( My parts catalog for the 91-93 model year range says there are no differences in the 91-93 year range 2.5L timing chain/cover/associated parts.
DJM/78 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Posted June 23, 2010 Well, I've never had a 92, but I did have a 93 2.5, and that DOES have a tensioner. Whoever wrote the book probably go mixed information, because the 4.0 does not have a tensioner. Your right , its the Hayne's manual ... :shake: , I checked NAPA and they said it was the same part# as the 92" . i Also ordered a timing chain gasket set and seal from them as well . Thanks for the help , thats why I asked you guys , I knew something was wrong .
bigd44889 Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 these guy are so smart :brows: when in dought ask the obsessed :cheers:
DJM/78 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Posted June 23, 2010 these guy are so smart :brows: when in dought ask the obsessed :cheers: I just read the book again just to make sure my ADD hadn't taken over through my reading and yes , it states that the 92" chain cover and timing chain are different from the 91". It also shows no need to install a gasket on the cover ( 92" only ) ..... :rotf: I knew something was up when I say my 92" had a gasket . :hmm:
bigd44889 Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 if you do a serch at one time there was a link on here to a down loadable service manual for the 2.5 i'm leaving for work when i get home i will pull it out i burned it to disk see what it say's the guys on here arn't quite as good with 2.5 as thay are with 4.0 we are the oddballs runing 2.5's lol :cheers:
Eagle Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 The deal is that the 2.5L uses the same timing chain and gears as the 4.0L, but the 2.5L has a slightly lower deck (and cam) height. Which means that the 4.0L timing chain is just long enough to have slop in it when used in a 2.5L. Rather than use two different timing sets, AMC simply decided to add a tensioner to the 2.5L.
DJM/78 Posted June 24, 2010 Author Posted June 24, 2010 The deal is that the 2.5L uses the same timing chain and gears as the 4.0L, but the 2.5L has a slightly lower deck (and cam) height. Which means that the 4.0L timing chain is just long enough to have slop in it when used in a 2.5L. Rather than use two different timing sets, AMC simply decided to add a tensioner to the 2.5L. Thank you Eagle , short and simple . Its amazing how much time I put into thinking about that .
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