ParadiseMJ Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I bought this MJ (88) and the guy told me it needed a fuel filler tube (pipe, whatever) so I looked it up on carparts.com. They have it right there, BUT, it says it is not legal for sale or use in CA. Does anyone have any info on this? It just looks like a rubber hose (says it's safe for fuel, alchohol, etc. What part should I be using? Nowhere to be found on Autozone or O'Reilly's web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 go to a junkyard and buy one far like 10 bucks......... itl be much easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Sorry, Gotte nix that one, A JY is gonna be old and rotted like what he's got now.I had to replace the filler hose on both my J20's Think it cost less than $25 for new hose at NAPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 yea but what hes saying is that the one that hes found isnt legal where he lives for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 Sorry, Gotte nix that one, A JY is gonna be old and rotted like what he's got now.I had to replace the filler hose on both my J20's Think it cost less than $25 for new hose at NAPA. I have to agree with you. The NAPA store here said they "couldn't find it". I'll have to try the NAPA down the hill. It's the one I found at carparts.com that says "unlawful in CA". It has something to do with the smog police pressure testing. So, I'm thinking there's gotta be another P/N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Don't ask for a hose for a particular make, model. Measure the neck of the tank or filler .They sell universal replacement hose by the foot. They don't know , or care if it's going on a emissions vehicle or a exempt farm tractor or storage facility. Just ask for gas hose and specify ID and how much. Normally they only sell by the foot, one foot minimum. However depending on how well you know the clerk or how willing they are to accomadate ya, they'l let ya look in their scrap pile. For pieces less than a foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepdoggydogB Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Sorry, Gotte nix that one, A JY is gonna be old and rotted like what he's got now.I had to replace the filler hose on both my J20's Think it cost less than $25 for new hose at NAPA. I have to agree with you. The NAPA store here said they "couldn't find it". I'll have to try the NAPA down the hill. It's the one I found at carparts.com that says "unlawful in CA". It has something to do with the smog police pressure testing. So, I'm thinking there's gotta be another P/N. That test wasn't required until December 2007, I can't imagine what the difference between the rubber neck could be, unless CA had different filler necks back in 86-92 than the rest of the Country. My truck is an Ohio truck so it is probably why the smog police haven't dinged me, IIRC the only differences in filler tubes may have been an overflow tube that routed overflowed gas back into the fuel tank :dunno: . The extra hose was about 1/4 inch diameter tube that connected from the neck assembly to a nipple in the gas tank. I don't know if this was true of Jeeps, but I seem to remember this in older NIssan's :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Calif is so screwed up there is no way of telling about anything they do or want. I am fortunate in that I live in an area that doesn't have emission testing or requirements, but that kind of leaves me a little ignorant on some of the requirements. I do have all the latest manuals so I do have the info at hand. Just have to look it up.The MJ has 5 holes in the gas tank. One big one the sending unit goes in. It has 2 holes in it. one is fuel to engine and the smaller one is fuel return from engine. Two 1/4 approx. holes for the vents, on opposite corners on top of the tank, And the ones your interested in , one is the filler tube. It's 1-1/2 inches Dia.The other one is the overflow return tube. It's 5/8 in.Both are 10-1/2 in long. I really don't believe some clown, er, I mean some trained emissions specialist is going to dis assemble your fuel system looking for violations. Suggestions. Go on line and order the proper parts.If they won't ship to Ca., don't you know anybody out of state that can get them and send them to you? Get the universal hoses. If they want to know what they're for tell 'em your fixing your aunt Tilly's kitchen sink*. Or sewer line. Geez guy. Use ur brain, imagination. Edited aunt tilly's item. :shake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Get the universal hoses. If they want to know what they're for tell 'em your fixing your aunt Tilly's kitchen sink. Or sewer line. Geez guy. Use ur brain, imagination. :doh: Duhh, yeah but I already gave my Aunty her Christmas present. She hasn't been out of her room since yesterday. :yes: I was just looking for some information before I drop the tank and put it all back together. Part my project is getting the whole system back to specs. :smart: Thanks for "ur" help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 HMMMM,,,Maybe you shud forget the Jeep for awhile and get somebody to work on aunt Tilley. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 So, I think the deal is that the filler hose has to be sold with the return hose. I believe the "return to tank" line is 5/8". I think I have the brain power to engineer that. I have to look again at the filler itself, the metal part. The PO had removed the bed and the hose(s) just fell apart in his hand when he dropped the tank. ...and now I'm hijacking my own thread... ...is it possible that since the filler hose and return line are presently disconnected that I would have a fuel delivery problem. The thing won't start. I installed the new ICM and coil that came with it, but the fuel pressure seems low ( haven't put a gauge to it yet). With the key on, engine off, it just piddles. I have had it started but now it just cranks and cranks, and doesn't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Seems like an opportune time to replace all the rubber pieces in the fuel lines too. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseMJ Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 Seems like an opportune time to replace all the rubber pieces in the fuel lines too. :thumbsup: Some is already changed out (new) as is the filter. I'm wondering if the fact that the tank is open to the air is causing part of my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepdoggydogB Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Seems like an opportune time to replace all the rubber pieces in the fuel lines too. :thumbsup: Some is already changed out (new) as is the filter. I'm wondering if the fact that the tank is open to the air is causing part of my problem. I would think the fuel injection system would be pressurized and fuel pressure reduced with the tank open to air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugalo Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Most likely cause of your low fuel pressure is the small hose attached to the fuel pump inside the tank.....they frequently rot and lose pressure before fuel even gets to the filter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Gas tank being open wouldn't have any thing to do with pressure.Start at the source and confirm or eliminate the problem.Run a ground lead to the fuel filler insert. Hook a pressure guage to the fuel outlet. Apply +12 volts to the fuel pump lead.The orange wire. The other wire is the sending unit. You should get a reading.You should also be able to hear the pump running. Don't have a guage, just leave the hose open. Gas should shoot out 10 ft. Make sure your in the open and be careful when doin that.Or just catch it in a can, bottle. Won't tell how much pressure but will at least tell ya it's working.If nothing then first check the filter at the bottom of the pump.if it's clean then check the hose from the top of the pump. The above suggestion is assuming the pump is still in the tank. If it is out of the tank then fill a coffee can with gas. About a quarter full.Stick the pump in it. Run the test. Be careful doing this. Gas explodes and burns quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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