A_Town_MJ Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Ive been wanting to install a roll cage inside the cab of my Mj, mainly just a hoop behind the seats, so that i have something solid to bolt my corbeau harness on. Maybe some bars to come down along the door jams. Anyone got any ideas, pics or suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjim Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Jegs has good prices on prebent you-weld-it cages, but nothing listed for an MJ. I've always wondered what they have in a similar size (Ranger, Dakota?), and how well they would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I bought the front half of this one, it fit decent but the bends could have been a little better located. http://www.dandcextreme.com/product.asp?pkID=126 I think they wanted $250 for the b pillar hoop, a pillar bars, 2 spreaders and the seat belt bar. I have since bought my own bender and have added on to the cage. The yellow is what came with the kit, minus the seat belt bar, I bent up my own, since I used theirs as the windshield spreader to get more headroom. The unpainted tube is what I have added Image Not Found Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Town_MJ Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.m ... _Code=ROLL Rustysofrroad ^^^ has an internal hoop for an XJ, from the pics they gave it looks like it could work in an mj. I'm just so reluctant to spend 250$ on just a hoop behind the seats, but lack the tools and welding knowledge (working on gathering said knowledge) to fab my own. :???: can anyone out their fab and build something similiar to the rustys cage above, and get it to my door for 2 bills? Cause thatd be rather awesome.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 So the only thing that holds that one from going forward or backward is the two seat belt bolts? Is that strong enough for a decent roll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakal Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 if you look where the stock seat belts bolt up, upper ones, take a flat 1/4 in piece of stock. cut to fit. then use 2in tubing , 120 wall, going across the cab. weld it and drill holes to put in stock location. make sense? cheap and you only have to remove two bolts when you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelin'cj5 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I have a couple roll bars from a cj so i did a quick wonder how it would fit...main hoop looked like it could work. I have the roll bars and a cage that i think may end up being used when i start my build soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepman Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Here is an XJ kit that I am sure can easily made to fit an MJ... http://www.rockhard4x4parts.com/xj-2door.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I have a couple roll bars from a cj so i did a quick wonder how it would fit...main hoop looked like it could work. I have the roll bars and a cage that i think may end up being used when i start my build soon. If you want something that will save your neck, you might want to focus on getting materials that will actually save your neck. OEM stuff is not really know for that. DOM is where it's at. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I have a couple roll bars from a cj so i did a quick wonder how it would fit...main hoop looked like it could work. I have the roll bars and a cage that i think may end up being used when i start my build soon. If you want something that will save your neck, you might want to focus on getting materials that will actually save your neck. OEM stuff is not really know for that. DOM is where it's at. :thumbsup: For an internal cage, HREW is sufficient, since the roof structure will take most of the load. Anything external, I would go DOM for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I guess. I'd still use DOM for the main hoops and hrew for the straight pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelin'cj5 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I have a couple roll bars from a cj so i did a quick wonder how it would fit...main hoop looked like it could work. I have the roll bars and a cage that i think may end up being used when i start my build soon. If you want something that will save your neck, you might want to focus on getting materials that will actually save your neck. OEM stuff is not really know for that. DOM is where it's at. :thumbsup: I agree with you 100% if i was going to use my mj hardcore. Worst it might see is a flop on its side. If i do end up wheelin it harder in the future DOM for sure and use the first as a template. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I guess. I'd still use DOM for the main hoops and hrew for the straight pieces. DOM and HREW are not too different in structural strength. HREW is 100% adequate for interior use. All bends (main hoops) need to be bent propertly with HREW so one does not split the seam(s). DOM surface strength is where it becomes an advantage over HREW. FWIW, this well known rig was built 100% with HREW and it has withstood many flops and a couple SIGNIFICANT lands on it's roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 You planning on tieing this in with the interior cage? Why not build a halo and tie it all in together? I plan on a halo with a minimal interior cage (b-pillar only) and tie it into a partial exo. -Avery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I have a couple roll bars from a cj so i did a quick wonder how it would fit...main hoop looked like it could work. I have the roll bars and a cage that i think may end up being used when i start my build soon. If you want something that will save your neck, you might want to focus on getting materials that will actually save your neck. OEM stuff is not really know for that. DOM is where it's at. :thumbsup: I agree with you 100% if i was going to use my mj hardcore. Worst it might see is a flop on its side. If i do end up wheelin it harder in the future DOM for sure and use the first as a template. Most guys that roll over never intended to. I have a friend that endo-ed his willys twice down a big but gradual hill cause he caught a rock wrong at the top. His cage held up fine. In my opinion, if you're contemplating a cage, you're already wheeling plenty hard enough to justify doing it right. Otherwise, go with a rollbar (and a real one, not the aftermarket light bars). I did. 2" DOM and it's welded securely to the frame. The only thing I regret is not adding the diagonal in the initial build. I had planned on putting it in with phase 2, but that phase fizzled and so I'm stuck with less strength than I wanted. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 You planning on tieing this in with the interior cage? Why not build a halo and tie it all in together? I plan on a halo with a minimal interior cage (b-pillar only) and tie it into a partial exo. -Avery I'm still undecided. I might, but more than likely I won't. The cage on the inside is really tight up against the panels, I don't know how I would get access to the back sides of them to go through the roof/back panel to tie them together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 You planning on tieing this in with the interior cage? Why not build a halo and tie it all in together? I plan on a halo with a minimal interior cage (b-pillar only) and tie it into a partial exo. -Avery I'm still undecided. I might, but more than likely I won't. The cage on the inside is really tight up against the panels, I don't know how I would get access to the back sides of them to go through the roof/back panel to tie them together. I can respect the undecided part. I am still going back and forth whether I want to do the inside B-pillar and go through the roof or just halo it and do an exo where it goes in the front quarter panels (like the yellow rig I posted). Mine is going to be a light duty trail rig although I build it for the tough stuff. My dilema is like what Pete said. A simple unsuspecting rock can make one flop or even go head over feet a couple of times and considering the unique nature of this rig plus all the time I have put into it, I want to have it for a LONG time. I have a buggy I need to finish for the tougher stuff when I get there. What to do......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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