B430 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I just bought an 86 MJ (my 1st MJ) with a broken D35 in the back, and since no local junkyards have an MJ d35 with the correct ratio, it seems that installing a explorer 8.8 would not be a whole lot more work than making a non MJ D35 fit and then i wouldn't need to worry about a broken rear end again for a while. first off on this site they are able to use the flange adaptor from the explorer to mate to the jeep driveshaft. it says "Cherokees with 8.25 rear ends (and '94+ YJs) used 1330 rear u-joints, just like the Explorers." but my thought is if they were able to use the D35 with that u joint could a stock MJ driveshaft also be made to work? second question. i plan on going SOA eventually but i don't have the budget to do it at the moment, so would it be possible to weld spring perches to the top and bottom of the axle and then later cut off the bottom ones when i go SOA? that's all i got for now, but i'm sure to think of more later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Well to swap in an 8.8 you are going to need a 1310 companion flange... yes some explorers came with the 1330.. you just need to worry about the 1310. Also you can weld as manay perches as you want on your axle.. after all it is your axle. Jeff and I just did a SOA on his rig, and his was a MJ d44, so we welded perched parrallel to those and called it good. Jeff and I realized this when we did his soa.. that with stock tires your rims are real close to the frame in the rear, and with an 8.8 would be even closer, so wheel spacers would almost be a must. Just remember to ser your pinion at the same angle as your t-case pinion (without sye) and with SYE point it towards it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B430 Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 so just to be clear i need one of these? currieenterprises.com/cestore/productsRE.aspx?id=1043? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Not necessarily... you could swap to a conventional yoke OR just be sure to take it when you get the axle from the donor exploder!!! CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B430 Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 so if i take the one from the explorer driveshaft i'm ok? it will fit the driveshaft of my 86 mj 4x4 with an ax-4 and d35? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 I would say mopre then likely yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 You can also swith out to a "u-bolt" style yoke. They came on full size F series vehciles. What made me think of it was the ford I just stripped, and I was looking under casper :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 so if i take the one from the explorer driveshaft i'm ok? it will fit the driveshaft of my 86 mj 4x4 with an ax-4 and d35? The explorer would have a flange adapter that fits a 1330 U-joint. Your Jeep uses a 1310 U-joint, so no the Explorer one won't work. I think either an Areostar adapter or a Ranger adapter is the right size Make sure the Ford you're looking at has an 8.8 and not the smaller 7.5 (or whatever the number is). Ford used the 8.8 differential on all sorts of vehicles (but only the Explorer axle will fit your Jeep). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Not necessarily... you could swap to a conventional yoke OR just be sure to take it when you get the axle from the donor exploder!!! CW YUP, You could just swap in a conventional yoke as well... I heard that somewhere before.... :brows: :shake: Pete, Unless my TJ is different, the factory FORD flange worked perfectly with the factory DS When I swapped in the 8.8. It also works with Tom Woods thats under it now. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B430 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 got my 8.8 today, it's from a 93 explorer so unfortunately it's got drums, but the pick n pull yard didn't have any 95+ and the price was right at $89. It has an LSD too which since i plan to make the truck a daily driver should make it a lot better on snowy roads and in the wet. i looked at the part #s for the u-joints of various ford vehicles and i found a 4.0L ranger or aerostar have the same u joint as the MJ. so i plan to go back and get one of those, didn't have time today. i have the explorer adapton as well right now so i'll see how it fits, maybe it'll work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Pete, Unless my TJ is different, the factory FORD flange worked perfectly with the factory DS When I swapped in the 8.8. It also works with Tom Woods thats under it now. CW As I understand it, I believe your TJ would have the 1330 U-joints. I could be wrong. I don't own an Explorer or a TJ to go measure. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippnk Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 wanted to follow up on this topic. Can anyone confirm if you can use a yoke off a ranger or such to connect an 8.8 to a stock MJ driveshaft? I just picked up my 8.8 and wanna get her under the jeep soon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eacomanche88 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I just installed a 8.8 in my MJ this week, the rear end I had gotten had the pinion flange adapter on it, (they torched off the shaft). I removed the old 1330 joint and bought a 1330/1310 conversion joint at a auto parts store. (if you need a part # just google 1310 to 1330 conversion joint ) and my stock driveshaft worked great. The flange yoke does need to be off of a 8.8 to work off an Explorer or Ranger from what I was told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippnk Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So I can either get the stock explorer yoke and a 1310 to 1330 Ujoint or get a new 1310 flange and use the stock ujoint? That sounds like what is being said but I wanted to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 No matter what you have to put to perches on so do the SOA now. Trust me you'll thank me later. Do the rear now and throw some 3in coils up front for now and run it like that then build the front up, or wait on the axle swap untill you can do the front as well. http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm companion flange adapter (Spicer number 2-2-1379) http://members.cox.net/quanno/ford88.html http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/cat ... p-186.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippnk Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I just ground off the spring perches and swaybar mounts today and have new perches and shock mounts in the garage. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Going to do the SOA or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippnk Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Yup, SOA for the rear and I have some RE 4.5in coils for up front. also have some 2in spacers for the front if I need them, new trackbar, JKS Discos, Adj Lowers, New SS brake lines, Wheel spacers for front and rear, got the 1310 flange yoke w/ new ujoint, spring perches, shock brackets..... think that is it. What can I use for spring plates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I had my buddy Dune Coon fab up a set using the shock mounts from the old with a 1/4" steel plate for the springs. Worked great. Then you can just cut off later when you get shock mounts. But if have some then just use some steel and make one yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motion Offroad Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Rubicon Express part number RE2055 will work. Universal Spring Plate. 3/8" Thick with three different center pin holes. Raw Steel, no paint or powder coating. Will fit Ubolts from 1/2" X 2.75" ID to 9/16" X 3.25" ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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