akamcbird Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 looking for a measure from center of axle to ?bodyline? no fender flairs must find out were i'm at to make any decisions on lift (minimal if any at all to start) thanx for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duner Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I think its time we come up with some standard method of measurement for lift. I saw this in an earlier thread that someone suggested that we measure from center of axle to bottom of frame rails this seems like an accurate way to measure actual lift without the varying tire diameter problem instead of the old bottom of flare to the ground. Now if we all accept this I just need someone out there with a stock manche to measure their truck and let us know what it is as I have no way to go back at this point all I can tell you is that at 6'2 I think I need a step to get in my manche now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaterjeep Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 The first thing we would need to know is if it's a 2wd or a 4wd, as they are IIRC about an inch difference with the 4wd obviously being the taller one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 one method i have heard of used alot is hub to the bend in the body iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I think its time we come up with some standard method of measurement for lift. I saw this in an earlier thread that someone suggested that we measure from center of axle to bottom of frame rails this seems like an accurate way to measure actual lift without the varying tire diameter problem instead of the old bottom of flare to the ground. Now if we all accept this I just need someone out there with a stock manche to measure their truck and let us know what it is as I have no way to go back at this point all I can tell you is that at 6'2 I think I need a step to get in my manche now. I can do better. That measurement is in my Comanche FSM. I'm at work now but I'll look it up at home if someone will be kind enough to send me a reminder by PM. FWIW, I know y'all keep saying the 2WD rides lower than the 4WD but I don't recall seeing two specs in the FSM. We'll see ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 This method for the rear was on NAXJA quite awhile back. I took measurements on my MJ before lifting it; the measurements were dead on: Measure from the top of the rear axle tube to the underside of the frame rail just inboard of the bump stop. For 4WD models this distance should be 9.2 inches, plus or minus 1/2". (For 2WD models the dimension is 8.2" plus/minus 1/2"). However higher your measurement is the lift on your rig, regardless of tire size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Sounds like my post. :) I found the factory data. Not in the FSM after all, but in a book of IS bulletins. Front: Measure from top of axle tube to underside of frame rail, inboard of the coil spring. Do NOT measure from the diff housing or shift motor housing. 2WD models should be 6-3/4" plus or minus 1/2". 4WD models should be 7-3/4" plus or minus 1/2". Rear: Measure the vertical distance between the top of the axle tube and the underside of the frame rail inboard of the jounce bumper. 2WD models should be 8.2" plus or minus 1/2". 4WD models should be 9.2 inchws plus or minus 1/2". So you lads are correct about the 4WD models riding higher. If I once knew that, I had forgotten it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I found the factory data. Not in the FSM after all, but in a book of IS bulletins No wonder I could not find this in my FSM............... :mad: How can I get these IS bulletins Eagle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I found the factory data. Not in the FSM after all, but in a book of IS bulletins No wonder I could not find this in my FSM............... :mad: How can I get these IS bulletins Eagle? I got it from Dyment, the DaimlerChrysler literature clearinghouse. The title is "M.R.277 I.S. Notes" and it's part number 8980 010 169A. I don't remember what it cost me and I have no idea if it is still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Thanks - I'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duner Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Ok, based on the 2wd drive dimensions I have a very honest 6" lift. the down side is the rear cost about $200 for the D44 and SOA conversion and the front is about $750 and I still need to hit the alignment shop again so lets call it $800 now how much will it lose when I put the bumper and winch on the front (LOL) i'll just put the spacers back in I now have a collection of 2" and 3.5" lift components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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